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Title: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: MonmouthGuy on October 12, 2011, 10:51:25 AM
10 years and 50k.

Looks like the NYRA has found their scapegoat and can proclaim that the sport is clean.

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Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: miff on October 12, 2011, 11:19:49 AM
Dutrow\'s License Revoked for 10 Years

By Tom Precious
New York regulators revoked Rick Dutrow's license for at least 10 years for what they said has been a pattern of rules violations by the controversial trainer.

The three-member State Racing and Wagering Board reduced a far more serious penalty as proposed by the hearing officer in the case: lifetime revocation of his license.

Dutrow, who one board member said has been cited for violating various racing rules in nine states and 15 different tracks, is also barred from being on the grounds of any racetrack in New York during the 10-year period.

"Let this be a lesson to other people in the business," said board chairman John Sabini.

Sabini said Dutrow "has repeatedly violated rules in jurisdictions across the country and a license is a privilege and not a right."

But board member Daniel Hogan said providing a sunset period to the revocation is "more appropriate" than a lifetime ban for Dutrow.

Hogan said that while Dutrow loves the sport of racing, "He loved winning more and he wasn't above breaking rules to win."

Dutrow and his lawyer were not immediately available for comment.

Originally, Dutrow was hit with a 90-day suspension after officials found the painkiller butorphanol in a urine sample from Fastus Cactus, who finished last Nov. 20 in the third race at Aqueduct, and a subsequent discovery of hypodermic needles in a Dutrow barn.

The racing board later upped the penalty to a full revocation of his license, saying that the controversial trainer is a "person whose conduct at racetracks in New York State and elsewhere has been improper, obnoxious, unbecoming, and detrimental to the best interests of racing."

Dutrow has still been training horses, as permitted, during his appeal of the board's proposed punishment.

The trainer has steadfast denied the board's most recent allegations against him, and said he wasn't even in the state when the drug was found in the urine sample of one of his horses last year.

"I wouldn't do something improper with any of my horses," Dutrow said back in June. "I've done really good in the game...and I wouldn't risk that for anything.\"

Besides denying the charges, Dutrow's lawyer has claimed his due process rights were violated by the racing board. Chief among the claims by Michael Koenig, his lawyer, is connections between racing board chairman John Sabini, who is on the board of the Racing Commissioners International, and the group's president, Ed Martin. A former top official at the New York racing board, Martin urged Sabini to revoke, and not just suspend, Dutrow's license, noting that the trainer has a long history of problems, including 69 rule infractions in different states since 1979, including a 2005 case when he continued training during a suspension period.

The board's hearing officer in the case, Clemente Parente, recommended to the board that Dutrow never be allowed to train again in New York, and that he pay $50,000 in fines for the two violations from last fall.

Sabini said the 10-year suspension begins next week, giving time for Dutrow-trained horses already entered in races to run. "If we have even a smell of third party training here," Sabini said of Dutrow's conduct during the suspension period, "we're not going to look kindly on it."

Board member Charles Diamond said Dutrow's conduct has been "inconsistent with the best interests of racing."

He called a permanent revocation, however, "too severe" and proposed the 10-year ban instead.
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: Boscar Obarra on October 12, 2011, 02:13:54 PM
ok, so if you\'re a \'user\' in NY what do you do different starting  tomorrow with your operation?
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: jma11473 on October 12, 2011, 05:59:45 PM
Yeah, 64 SEPARATE RULE VIOLATIONS in 9 states at 15 different tracks...poor scapegoat. They were all made up, obviously---just fractional overages of nice, helpful drugs I\'m sure.

Cue Miff, kool-aid drinkers, clueless clowns, blah blah. Poor Tricky Dick.
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: HP on October 13, 2011, 06:24:52 AM
Ten years is quite a hit.  I have to agree with JMA overall though.  I know I can\'t go to the track and see a race with a Dutrow horse in it and not have to start thinking about this crap.  It certainly isn\'t contributing to any enjoyment in the game.  

Just a shock to see them have TEETH all of a sudden.  I thought Phipps\' final comments were great.  HP
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: MonmouthGuy on October 13, 2011, 06:34:56 AM
Listen. I don\'t feel bad for Tricky. He brought it on himself.  But as long as Rudy Rodriguez is ITM at Saratoga at the same % as Chad Brown and more than Pletcher, Mott, Kieran, etc. color me unconvinced that this is more than a headline grabber.
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: HP on October 13, 2011, 06:54:14 AM
Have to start somewhere.
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: miff on October 13, 2011, 07:44:37 AM
JMA,

Add yourself to the clueless list if you are not aware that Tricky was politically lynched.Tricky an easy target for the appointed political stooges running racing and the supporting upstate blue-blood horse breeders/owners.Guess they will be banning others with multiple class 3 or 4 violations when their license renewal applications come up.

Incidentally,where\'s the magic bullet? Where\'s the Class 1 and Class 2 positives, duh!!Tricky a nitwit deserving of a stiff fine and time, 10 years absurd.


Mike
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: elkurzhal on October 13, 2011, 09:44:41 AM
Hope he goes \"Conseco\" and writes a book.
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: HP on October 13, 2011, 12:54:04 PM
Fool me once, shame on you.  

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me 64 times in 9 states at 15 different tracks, I guess this is okay.  

Could not resist.  

HP
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: jumpnthefire on October 13, 2011, 02:54:04 PM
let me ask you the truth if wrote a book and named names i don\'t think hed get to spend a dime before hed go missing
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: miff on October 13, 2011, 04:55:11 PM
\"As a measure of Dutrow's public reputation, the animal-welfare organization PETA sent a congratulatory bouquet of flowers to the New York State Racing and Wagering Board on Thursday for banning the trainer\"


....animal loons sent flowers for Tricky\'s grave!!


Mike
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: richiebee on October 13, 2011, 07:01:34 PM
Congratulations clueless clowns.

Perennial leading trainer Tricky -- 10 year ban.

Perennial leading owner Ernie P. currently incarcerated for neglecting his animals.

Hayward and Campo. This was going on on your watch. NYRA might be the best
example of \"the fish stinking from the head\".
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: elkurzhal on October 17, 2011, 09:02:33 AM
So now what to we do with what he has left during the 30 day stay?   Think he stays super clean, as anything popping up now would be really bad for his slim chances?  Or figure pulls every trick out and goes out firing?
Title: Re: Good-bye Tricky
Post by: plasticman on October 19, 2011, 09:09:23 PM
Completely agree with HP, you have to start somewhere.