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Title: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: nicely nicely on April 19, 2002, 09:44:34 AM
It\'s up and open for debate.
Title: Officer out
Post by: rail on April 19, 2002, 09:54:18 AM
http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=9182

Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: MO on April 19, 2002, 11:01:19 AM
I think Ethan Man will get the distance. Here, there is an added edge (at least for me) in that while there are some very good riders here, Day is head and shoulders above them (excepting Bailey, but he\'ll be parked wide today)and figures to get great position and have something left in the stretch. If EM gets the distance, he\'s a lock to win.

Easyfromthegetgo will be second.

With a rail trip, Mucho Rapido can round out the trifecta.

Safe trips to all.

MO
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: HP on April 19, 2002, 12:19:04 PM
I\'ll play against Ethan Man. Even without Officer he\'ll have some pressure.

Easyfromthegitgo won\'t be much value but is tough to toss. Crimson Hero, Tailsfromthecrypt and Proud Citizen all look capable at a price.

I agree with AB\'s overall read on Tails, but the KEE work caught my eye. At a price I\'d take a swing.

If Ethan Man is the favorite I like the race. But a lot hangs on the tote. We\'ll see. Thanks for posting this one. HP
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: gamblin man on April 19, 2002, 04:37:34 PM
Does anyone think either one of Zito horses could be explosive?
Title: Chalk One Up
Post by: derby1592 on April 19, 2002, 06:14:48 PM
It looks like Ethan is \"the Man.\" I cannot play against the likely favorite in this race. He looks much the best. His breeding is a little suspect for the distance but his trainer is super stretching them out and Day will fit this horse like a glove. He also has been rating better with every outing and Keenland favors speed. I will pass this race. Too bad Officer scratched...

The battle for second looks to be between Easyfromthegitgo and Proud Citizen although I think One Tough Fox might run a big one.

Good luck to all.

Chris

Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: gamblin man on April 20, 2002, 02:09:19 PM
I\'ve been following the ROTW for about 6 months. I don\'t even want to think of how many winners these GARBAGE numbers talked me off of because your numbers said the horses were \"too slow\". And the reason the analysis loses every week is because the numbers he uses suck!! I can\'t believe people actually pay 25 $ a day for this crap!!!! There really IS a sucker born every minute and maybe every second!!!!!!! If your numbers were any good you wouldn\'t be selling them. Ethan Man... LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: kev on April 20, 2002, 02:42:26 PM
Scott wheres your picks at? Come back derby time there big boy. Like i have said before on this topic, no one ever talks about when TG picks some nice prices out and nice ex\'s in the Red board room.  Where are you at then??  uh???
Title: ROTW - from TG
Post by: nicely nicely on April 20, 2002, 02:46:17 PM
I encourage the saner members of the board  to NOT respond to Scott\'s post.

It\'s true I didn\'t particularly love Lukas\' horse even with the 2nd off the layoff stat, and we need no apologies for pointing out Ethan Man is a very fast sprinter with suspect distance breeding.
This week\'s ROTW speaks for itself.
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: HP on April 20, 2002, 02:55:53 PM
I used the same numbers and disagreed with the analysis; that said, the analysis did talk about the limitations of EMan. Was thrilled he was 3/2. I\'m sure others had it too. Thanks for the freebie TG. HP
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: gamblin man on April 20, 2002, 03:47:02 PM
What can you say? A few sheet buyers win with them. A few racing form buyers win too. You might hit a few races but you can hit a few races using a ouiji board too. What a waste of money...........
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: gamblin man on April 20, 2002, 03:48:33 PM
I\'ll give you some good picks as long as I don\'t have to use these crappy sheets !!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: hracingply on April 20, 2002, 04:37:30 PM
somebody needs a nap

Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: HP on April 20, 2002, 05:29:00 PM
I\'m sure Jim had it too. The numbers have been so good this year (especially in spring). HP
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: kev on April 20, 2002, 05:36:20 PM
Guess I\'m not saner uh??
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: nicely nicely on April 20, 2002, 05:53:20 PM
kevin s wrote:
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> Guess I\'m not saner uh??

nope :)
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: Jim on April 20, 2002, 05:58:10 PM
I love it!! Way to go HP, we should just call you Mr. Teflon! No way would I sit here and criticize poor picks week after week - but what kind of homer would try to defend them???

Of course I did NOT have Proud Citizen. Heck I mostly agreed with the TG analysis. Since you asked and I am an honest sort, I\'ll tell you that I played Ethan Man to lose the race, putting him in the 2 and 3 hole with most of the field for the tri. I didn\'t think Ethan Man would run that poorly, even with the distance questions.

I did more than make up for it with Dianehill at 5-2 and Touring England at over 5-1 in the last. I\'m sure TG showed winning numbers and patterns for those too - they were standouts. Gulfstream was good today too, but very chalky.

Like I said - the Sheets have been dynamite this Spring!!!

Life is good!!
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: kev on April 20, 2002, 05:59:15 PM
I take it you work for TG??
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: kev on April 20, 2002, 06:01:41 PM
That was for nicely, about the working for TG.
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: nicely nicely on April 20, 2002, 06:46:32 PM
kevin s wrote:
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> That was for nicely, about the working for TG.

Yes, I work for Thoro-Graph and have been for about 3 years. Ragozin fired me (in case anyone asks) after about 11 years. (My life is much more relaxing, saner, and satisfying now.)

I wrote this Race of the Week analyis, and do so occasionally. I\'ll probably write it next week, too.

I suppose I shouldn\'t have responded to that Scott fella, and I certainly don\'t mind criticism of my analysis, however, in this case, the analysis was strong.

You could ask me to make a top-ten list of reasons why Scott (or that Jim guy) continues to post here and I would stop at reason #1 - He needs attention.
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: Jim on April 20, 2002, 07:13:49 PM
Keep it coming nicely - I\'ll take it all.

Funny how you completely skip over my comment that I agreed with your analysis for the most part. I thought my post was supportive, but I guess unless you completely kiss as_ here then you are the enemy.

I love how you and the other homers completely discourage or slander any free discussion, then complain about censorship on other boards. Well in my opinion it is just as bad to lie, pressure, and attack under the guise of free speech.

I\'ll post wherever and whenever I want. If I get fed up with your attitude, then perhaps I\'ll move on, but for now....
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: HP on April 21, 2002, 04:48:07 AM
The analysis I see says Ethan Man at 5/2 or more, so that was a pass. Dianehill made sense, but was too short for me. HP
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: Jim on April 21, 2002, 07:32:12 AM
Uh HP, somehow my point seems to be totally escaping the homers - I supported the analysis. Can it get any more clearer?

I lost the race - I played him to lose. Is any of this getting through?

Now your comment - somehow I think 5/2 was based on Officer in the race. That doesn\'t change the fact that I basically agreed with the analysis...starting to sink in yet?

Sorry that\'s as far as I\'m going. I\'m not a butt kisser. BTW, Dianehill at 5-2 was a gift. I had her at least 3 points better - the only unknown was the first time turfer that ran 2nd at a price.
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: TGJB on April 21, 2002, 11:58:42 AM
And not just the Sheets- you! And we can tell this by your after the fact posts! And since you are so honest and non-partisan, we don\'t doubt you for a second! Thanks for the truly informative post, we\'re all going to give it serious consideration!!!

Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: TGJB on April 21, 2002, 12:02:56 PM
You have yet to come up with an example of lies or slander, which makes this post both. But you knew that. What you don\'t seem to grasp, due to your low opinion of humanity, is that everyone else knows it too. You continue to make my case about Raggies- Thanks.

Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: HP on April 22, 2002, 06:07:31 AM
I got you the first time, but I don\'t see how using him on tri tickets (and not just in 3rd) is \'playing him to lose\'. Playing a 3/2 shot \'to lose\' is tossing him from the tickets (unless he\'s part of \'all\' in the 3rd spot as a saver).

I just threw you into my post as a little joke. I\'m glad you continue to do well, but you have not posted anything before a race (still) which weakens some of your other points. Put out your stuff ahead of time to demonstrate those dynamite numbers. If I can do it (with TG), so can you (with your product of choice).

You\'re probably a little like me. My betting strategy is way behind the rest of my game. HP
Title: Re: ROTW - Coolmore Lexington
Post by: Jim on April 22, 2002, 03:01:57 PM
Jerry, huh???

I listed the I supported the TG analysis, lost on the race, and pointed out two races where I did well. What part of this don\'t you understand - it\'s called balance and truth.
Title: Re: ROTW - from TG
Post by: Jim on April 22, 2002, 03:04:30 PM
Jerry, huh????

I have yet to come up with an example? When was I asked to?

Since you have asked - you have repeatedly called me a liar, which is untrue, so I have to go no farther (though I could).

You continue to expose yourself as a bitter, lying, unhappy person.

Life is good!!