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Title: Unbelievable
Post by: TGJB on June 11, 2011, 03:45:04 PM
That horse just beat me out of so much money it\'s not funny. Probably not the only one here, either. D\' Tara redux.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: jumpnthefire on June 11, 2011, 03:48:17 PM
well i i think my wife is right she just told me me why dont i jut play the lotto same thing lol
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: mjellish on June 11, 2011, 03:54:44 PM
I hear you Jerry.

I had a nice size win bet on Stay Thirsty.  Man, I thought I had it there.  No way I see Ruler on Ice hanging on at a 1 1/2.  No way.

Got busted out of the Pick 4 pretty easily, only survived the 1st leg (and I used ALL).  

Didn\'t use the 3 anywhere in the Belmont, so even if Stay had won Ruler on Ice would have beat me out of my Tre.  Still would have been nice to cash that win bet.

This has been the Triple Crown series from hell.  Close but nothing.  I\'m taking a break until Saratoga.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: FrankD. on June 11, 2011, 03:56:43 PM
6 weeks from yesterday MJ and I\'m right with you !
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: jumpnthefire on June 11, 2011, 04:01:15 PM
is this the first time that all 3 winners in the triple crown were long shots because AK shack and ruler all were 10-1 or more..
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Michael D. on June 11, 2011, 04:07:00 PM
thought I had it hit turning for home with Brilliant Speed. ran the best fig with all the ground loss, but gets no pass from me. he still needs to beat that lousy bunch, especially after the fav went down early.

when\'s the Pacific Classic?
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: drbillym on June 11, 2011, 04:11:28 PM
My friends are in the clubhouse at Belmont, and right before the big race the track ran out of alcohol-is that possible?  Can\'t even drown your sorrows!
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Perfect Drift on June 11, 2011, 04:12:54 PM
The Belmont is becoming a joke.  This will certainly add to the list of winners who never goes on to victory in another important race.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: TGJB on June 11, 2011, 04:13:58 PM
I played pick 3\'s, used 3 in the FM grass race including the winner, and used 4 including the the bomb in the Manhattan (for a drop, because he was so long). My $5 pick 3 was paying 16k for $2. And if the winner doesn\'t show and the 2-3-4 run 1-2-3, I\'m guessing I and everyone else on this board would have killed the tri price.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: white lightning on June 11, 2011, 04:19:48 PM
game of chess anyone??????????????? bobby fischer saw this coming 40 yrs ago he knew when to walk away what a visionary anyway i got the 12 in the 12th wahat a game good luck
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Lost Cause on June 11, 2011, 04:29:46 PM
I got beat out of at least 40K-50K there between the Broklyn/Belmont Double and the p4..along with p3s rolling off of that one and exactas..

P4 was easy for me..
.50 cent p4 All/All/All/2  I wasn\'t going to get beat if my longshot won the belmont..It was paying 30K for .50 cent..

My wife had family over...They now think she is married to a crazy man that screams at the TV..
Top it all of my wife\'s favorite numbers are 2.3 ..She asked me why I didn\'t box her numbers..I wanted to Box her..


First Denis of Cork and now this...I have to go vomit...
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: hotspringskid on June 11, 2011, 04:33:18 PM
Bet 2 horses to win. Nehro and Ruler on Ice. I am not happy. Brilliant Speed screwed me out of a lifetime score. I do thank TG figs for my even considering Ruler on Ice. Front runners holding and 1st time blinkers didn\'t hurt either. I really was expecting him to be in the exotics, but I had to take a shot for the win so I wouldn\'t be totally pissed if he pulled off the upset. We\'ll get em next year.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: jbelfior on June 11, 2011, 04:59:48 PM
What is it with 1 1/16 prep races at Pimlico???.

Sarava, D\'Tara, now Ruler On Ice........adds up to $271 win mutual. You don\'t have to be right often with those numbers.



Good Luck,
Joe B.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Stewball on June 11, 2011, 06:05:07 PM
That was a nasty clip for Animal Kingdom right at the start-I\'m amazed the announcer didn\'t comment on it...
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: djr2000 on June 11, 2011, 06:21:56 PM
Larry Colmus on NBC said that JV almost went down as AK clipped heels with another horse.  He lost an iron and spotted the field 10 lengths and cost me $1500. He put in a great effort just to get back in the race but the toll was too much and he faded to 6th.  Horse and jockey are all heart.  Hope to bet him back in the Breeders Cup.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: CentaurMythX on June 11, 2011, 06:29:06 PM
From the head-on view you can see that Mucho Macho Man came in not once to clip AK, but twice just after the break.  The second one broke his stride/momentum,and forced him to lose quite a bit of ground before settling back in to stride.  Johnny V had enough poise and balance just to stay on the horse.  Of course, he made an impressive move on the far turn, but it was not to be.  He just didn\'t have enough left.

My condolences to all of you who were all over Brilliant Speed & Stay Thirsty.  Those 2 rounded out my exotics...

Ruler on Slop.
Title: no foot....no horse
Post by: TreadHead on June 11, 2011, 08:03:02 PM
Trivia question from today, which horses wore bend shoes in the Belmont?

Only the 1, 2, 3, 5, and 11.  Coincidence?  Perhaps.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: mikemca on June 11, 2011, 08:56:09 PM
I should start by saying I didn\'t cash one ticket on the big race.I was in the Brilliant Speed camp and he sure looked like the winner in deep stretch.With hindsight being 20/20 the winner was pretty reasonable on the sheets.He had a forward moving pattern one nice top away from the fastest ones in the race and thoro gave him a good chance to run that new top.Similar to BS.He figured to settle into a good position stalking and Breen does well with blinkers on.Sire stats showed good off track form.I and probably most everyone else just got hung up on the distance breeding and being a sib to champagne d\'oro.So as for the arguement beforehand about the Belmont not being about the figures, I think they held up pretty well.

 Also just want to give credit to TG for the Twinspires Saturday contest today I won.I am new to contests but after only playing 4 of the Saturday contests I came in 6th and won thanks to the sheets.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: jbelfior on June 11, 2011, 09:38:38 PM
Big jump ups with blinkers added used to be a trademark of Oscar, Pete, and Johnny Parisella back in the day. Hek, they had to have some kind of answer for the stewards.

Not inferring anything here I\'m just saying. ROI awful game at the end of a mile and a half race for a colt with sprint pedigree on the dam side. Roman Ruler not exactly the Giant Causeway of sires.


Good Luck,
Joe B.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: P-Dub on June 11, 2011, 09:58:34 PM
I was at a graduation party today, didn\'t play a thing. Tough to read about the near misses for so many of you. Some of the gallow\'s humor quite funny.

Will add that I thought Larry Colmus called another outstanding race. He has done a fantastic job with this new gig, and as much as I love Trevor, wouldn\'t mind listening to him call BC races.  Very professional and entertaining race calls.

I loved Gary Stevens as a jockey. As an analyst, he puts me to sleep. Zero charisma, and he often states the obvious.  Johnny V always gives a good post race interview, wouldn\'t mind seeing that guy in the booth after he hangs it up.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Topcat on June 12, 2011, 03:12:51 AM
jbelfior Wrote:
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> Big jump ups with blinkers added used to be a
> trademark of Oscar, Pete, and Johnny Parisella
> back in the day. Hek, they had to have some kind
> of answer for the stewards.
>
> Not inferring anything here I\'m just saying. ROI
> awful game at the end of a mile and a half race
> for a colt with sprint pedigree on the dam side.
> Roman Ruler not exactly the Giant Causeway of
> sires.
>
>
> Good Luck,
> Joe B.


On Horse Racing Radio, the boys reported that Breen noted after the race that
they\'d needed to do some sustained blood work after the Tesio.

It surely worked.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: miff on June 12, 2011, 09:04:31 AM
Modest 100 Beyer for winner.Kinda meaningless race for most in there considering the distance and surface condition.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: TGJB on June 12, 2011, 09:50:46 AM
You buried the lead. Nice going with the contest.

On another post-- I would love to hear more about that blood work. That\'s not necessarily an insinuation, either. But this is yet another situation that can\'t be evaluated without more information.

There\'s a ton going on behind the scenes on the drug issue right now, this is the first time I have felt something productive could actually come of it.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Rick B. on June 12, 2011, 10:16:58 AM
Seems the politically correct number, even with the double-digit jumps for both 1st and 2nd place finisher.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Ace on June 12, 2011, 12:54:59 PM
I liked Stay Thirsty to begin with, and determined he was a huge move-up on the off track so I doubled my win bet, and keyed him on top of all the exotics. He wins, I make a pile of money, too.  Oh well. I thought I had a winner in the Preakness in Astrology, too.  Good handicapping, but no money to show for either.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: MonmouthGuy on June 12, 2011, 04:19:30 PM
Hall/Breen barn is on fire.  Won two today at relatively short prices at Monmouth, then a first time graded stakes runner (Sleepless Knight) ran past Get Stormy in deep stretch to Place in a Grade 3 at long odds.  I couldn\'t have used that one on #s but keyed him because of the barn.
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: Beginner on June 12, 2011, 06:45:39 PM
Doc,
I was there and it was pathetic.  I had 4 tix at the finish line and invited 3 friends who don\'t play the races, but certainly could have become fans.  Not after yesterday.  The NYRA ran out of beer, wine, vodka, pretty much any alcohol....BEFORE the Belmont.  I had to bribe a bartender after they closed the bar in the simulcast room to get a handful of beer.  They were serving 1 quart Coronas as \"all that was left\".  Ive been to a lot of drinking establishments in a lot of places and ive never seetn that before.  It was a complete joke.  Let\'s see: they can\'t make money as bookies and they can\'t run a bar.  I found myself apologizing to my friends.  

On the racing, I had a ridiculous amount of money on ST and BS with Nehro more or less by process of elimination.  How the heck did ROI get in there.  I was counting my money at the top of the stretch and I was alive in a big pick 3. Hit the All button in the 10th. When viscount ran poorly, I was happy that I didn\'t include MOH in the pick 3 mix.   Of course, one of my buddies had $20 ATB on the 3 because his wife told him she liked the silks.  Yeesh. Shutting it down until the Travers...or maybe a friday twilight over at the scene of the crime (I\'ll be bringing my own beer)
Title: Re: Unbelievable
Post by: JR on June 13, 2011, 12:06:50 PM
ROI was one of the few in the race with a forward moving line who hadn\'t already peaked. Just another improving spring, albeit a late spring, 3yo.