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Title: JB on Over seas horses
Post by: kev on April 17, 2002, 03:55:24 PM
JB what are you thoughs on these two or three horses coming over?? The only thing i can do with them is to add them in my EX\'s thats it. Theres no way you can key them.
Title: Re: JB on Over seas horses
Post by: Phil Mandl on April 18, 2002, 05:20:27 AM
I praying for lots more people who agree with you.  Essence of Dubai arrived yestarday along with Tempara & Imperial Gesture.  You have two questions already answered with this colt.  Distance and class. IMO the same can be said of Castle Gandolfo. How many others in the field can you say the same about?  The only question w Johannasburg is distance.  He\'s certaintly classy enough and he also has proven he has the kind of running style to sit close enough in the early stages to be in a good spot for the run home. You have arguable the two best thoroughbred operations in the world in Godolphin and Coolmore and are never to be ingored especially when there appears there may be value wagering on them.
Title: Re: JB on Over seas horses
Post by: kev on April 18, 2002, 06:57:59 AM
Well the thing is i couldnt never see myself keying these type of horses. Like i said i\'ll look for a horse that i think will run well derby day and add them and some others with my key horse.
Title: Re: JB on Over seas horses
Post by: fastspeed on April 18, 2002, 07:36:48 AM
I\'m somewhere in between the two of you on this issue.  Godolphin and Coolmore are to be respected anytime, but the overall derby messages we\'re getting right now are not as positive as for example BC last year or when Giants C. came over 2 yrs ago.  frankie comes over for imperial gesture but is not sure if he stays for EOD, o\'brien has been positively puzzling on jo\'burg (he starts here, then he starts there, maybe he\'s coming, maybe just for the preakness...) and on castle gandolfo (he\'s only coming if jo\'burg is coming - what the hell is that ?). It just has not been \"all systems go\". still, you\'d be a fool to let any of them spoil your bet at inflated prices. if jo\'burg is single digits he\'d be the first to go from all my bets - class but just not value with all the doubts.  catle I could use underneath as he will be really big.  essence of dubai has a big chance to be in the first four or five so I will definitely use in exotics (and I admit to a tiny win saver at 21/1).
Title: Re: JB on Over seas horses
Post by: TGJB on April 18, 2002, 10:16:21 AM
I\'ll be going over all this(to the degree possible)in the seminar.

Title: Re: What seminar?
Post by: Phil Mandl on April 18, 2002, 01:49:52 PM
Where and when. Did I miss something? A suggestion, How about splashing the seminar info all over the site so everyone knows about it.
Title: Re: What seminar?
Post by: TGJB on April 18, 2002, 03:06:58 PM
Right here. We\'ve done it the last few years, and it will be available Wed. or Thurs. before the Derby. We\'ll be splashing soon.

Title: Re: What seminar?
Post by: tread on April 18, 2002, 03:46:22 PM
Take a chill pill, Phil.  Are you some kind of rookie?  Anyone who has used TG in past derbies knows TG does an online derby seminar the week of the derby.  But I\'m sure JB appreciates the suggestions for how to run his business.  LOL...
Title: Re: What seminar?
Post by: kev on April 18, 2002, 08:18:50 PM
Pre-derby sheets will be up fri. before the derby i think, right???