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Title: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: high roller on March 13, 2011, 06:05:38 AM
89 Beyer for Uncle Mo - Could it be another Rachel in the making???
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: Rick B. on March 13, 2011, 08:56:35 AM
high roller Wrote:
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> 89 Beyer for Uncle Mo - Could it be another Rachel
> in the making???

Uncle Mo ran each quarter faster than the first, so if it\'s flame-bait you are trying to cast, the correct question would be,

\"Could it be another Secretariat in the making???\"
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: jimbo66 on March 13, 2011, 10:15:10 AM
How about NEITHER of these posts.

In a glorified workout with no real competition, the Beyer had to be slow.  

A 3 year old superstar filly not coming back to form in her 4 year old season is completely different than Uncle Mo not maturing from 2 to 3 (if that even proves out to be the case, which yesterday\'s race certainly is NOT proof of).  

As for Secretariat.  Gimme a break.  When you jog like a mule for the first three quarters of a race, your internals should get faster from split to split.  It also means nothing.

Come on, we can do better.

Yesterday\'s race tells us NOTHING about Uncle Mo.  That should be as clear as day.  The questions are yet to be answered and there are a few.  It seems unlikely we get a good field for the Wood.  If that is the case, it is reasonable to ask whether a paid workout yesterday, plus a weak Wood is enough foundation to go 1 1/4 for Uncle Mo, even if he IS bigger and stronger this year.  And he still hasn\'t answered the question as to whether he has matured.  Unfortunately for those betting against him, he really doesn\'t have to get much better from last year to win the Derby.  If he can carry last year\'s talent to a 1 1/4 without going faster, he is a contender.
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: APny on March 13, 2011, 10:32:07 AM
You Mo haters are sounding so silly.  It\'s like you have something against the horse and are trying to start a campaign against him based on a prep race off a layoff.  This horse has done nothing wrong in his life.  I was at Gulfstream and must say on looks alone he is an amazing horse.  The connections want to win the triple crown and think they have a shot.  Why kill him by running a -2 now...I was not a fan of this horse before but being there yesterday and seeing it all in person....this horse is exciting.

Pluck lost an allowance race at Tampa Bay...Thas showed what a layoff can do to a horse.  Uncle Mo has done everything ever asked of him.  Period.
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: Rick B. on March 13, 2011, 10:35:32 AM
jimbo66 Wrote:
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> How about NEITHER of these posts.

> As for Secretariat.  Gimme a break.  
 
That was the point of my post, Jim -- if we are going to make ridiculous horse-to-horse comparisons using a meaningless prep race, hell, let\'s go for the uber.
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: P.Eckhart on March 13, 2011, 12:49:08 PM
Timeform rate the horse 127p. For the race yesterday they gave it 114+.
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: Boscar Obarra on March 13, 2011, 04:42:24 PM
One of two things will happen. Mo will run fast next time if he has too, or he\'ll get beat and those that have feeble race watching skills will think they knew something.
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: RICH on March 13, 2011, 05:16:35 PM
Mr P.
can you elaborate? good? bad?
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: miff on March 14, 2011, 08:24:52 AM
MO\'s 89 Beyer(TG 4ish)was nothing more than a work in company. Would liked to have seen him put in a hard fought quarter in there, just to toughen him up.The race kinda meaningless as to any type of pattern read, imo.

MO still has to answer the distance question, getting seriously hooked and showing the resiliency it will take to win in the TC series.Right now, he towers over,but now isn\'t May 6th.


Mike
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: Footlick on March 14, 2011, 07:42:57 PM
114 isn\'t a great number, but the + means that the horse can do significantly better, at least from what I understand
Title: Re: UNCLE MO -BEYER
Post by: Boscar Obarra on April 09, 2011, 04:42:58 PM
Boscar Obarra Wrote:
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> One of two things will happen. Mo will run fast
> next time if he has too, or he\'ll get beat and
> those that have feeble race watching skills will
> think they knew something.

 lol. Door # 2.