Ask the Experts

General Category => Ask the Experts => Topic started by: nyc1347 on July 03, 2010, 09:10:38 PM

Title: The Queens Plate
Post by: nyc1347 on July 03, 2010, 09:10:38 PM
Just wanted to comment on a great play I personally see here.  I kno JB wont be too happy with this post but ive been on my best behavior and hopefully this will be a bone as I am doing this for my opinion to everyone to contribute to something as i see of value to the board.  


Big Red Mike -   other than a 1 pt backwards move first off a long layoff this guy has a tremendous line.  a pair first 2 times out which is a great healthy sign.  one race needed out (12) and then gets stretch out to a new level.  That new level of 8 was reached with just 3 weeks off and then 5 weeks was given for another new top.  This one is a forging horse and has another 3 weeks off to where he hasnt ever showed to go back within the 3 weeks range so I feel a new top should be expected again or at worst a pair which would put him right there in a winning position.  Many are slow here and i also see others who have either run huge last out, bounced last out or havent shown any/or little development (none of those are good signs).  

BRM fits perfect with this group and 6-1 ML is great overlay odds imo. Nothing shows that this one cant run off short rest.. hes done it twice and has not moved back! good luck and il be gone for a while again!
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: Leamas57 on July 04, 2010, 07:51:29 AM
Nice to see you back, NYC!

Place has quiet lately, and (IMO) there\'s some correlation between the number of pots and the fact that you weren\'t posting.

Leamas
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: Niall on July 04, 2010, 08:59:54 AM
Just read this quote from the trainer. The horse figured to be on or near the pace per race shapes anyway. Trainer intent or trainer speak?? Thoughts?

Frostad said the blue-blooded Dark Cloud Dancer could end up setting the pace.

\"We might use him as a rabbit to set a decent pace, if nobody else goes,\" Frostad said.
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: yankndixie on July 04, 2010, 02:46:00 PM
good call NYC, I miss your posts on this forum (don\'t always agree but am always entertained, and more importantly, usually forced to look at a horse from a different perspective)
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: shanahan on July 04, 2010, 04:15:00 PM
great call.  without your post, I leave him out and no pik 3...thanks for the insight and perspective.  Nice payout.
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: Leamas57 on July 04, 2010, 05:58:30 PM
That\'s what I like about this guy. He\'s still in there diggin and sluggin. He deserves to win because he\'s dauntless.

(I refer to NYC, not the horse. Kudos to BRM while I am at it)

Leamas
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: MonmouthGuy on July 04, 2010, 07:36:55 PM
Nice hit.
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: richiebee on July 05, 2010, 05:36:54 AM
Leamas57 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Nice to see you back, NYC!
>
> Place has quiet lately, and (IMO) there\'s some
> correlation between the number of pots and the
> fact that you weren\'t posting.
>
> Leamas


...or maybe a lot of the serious handicappers were driven away when the site
became a home for fist pumping, self congratulatory \"YES I SCORED!!!\", here\'s my
ADW confirmation number past posting end zone celebrations...

In any case, nice selection by NYC in the QP; hope he liked this one enough to
use him in the top slot.
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: Leamas57 on July 05, 2010, 06:31:34 AM
richiebee Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Leamas57 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Nice to see you back, NYC!
> >
> > Place has quiet lately, and (IMO) there\'s some
> > correlation between the number of pots and the
> > fact that you weren\'t posting.
> >
> > Leamas
>
>
> ...or maybe a lot of the serious handicappers were
> driven away when the site
> became a home for fist pumping, self
> congratulatory \"YES I SCORED!!!\", here\'s my
> ADW confirmation number past posting end zone
> celebrations...
>
> In any case, nice selection by NYC in the QP; hope
> he liked this one enough to
> use him in the top slot.

I think you, not in any case, but in this case, mischaracterize NYC\'s posts as somehow selfish when he has as much genuine enthusiasm for the sport as a fellow fan could hope for.

He made one post and touted one horse and it won. And, sadly, he had to apologize for doing it.

Leamas
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: yankndixie on July 05, 2010, 06:35:45 AM
well said leamas
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: richiebee on July 05, 2010, 07:39:40 AM
Leamas57 Wrote:

 
> I think you, not in any case, but in this case,
> mischaracterize NYC\'s posts as somehow selfish
> when he has as much genuine enthusiasm for the
> sport as a fellow fan could hope for.
>
> He made one post and touted one horse and it won.
> And, sadly, he had to apologize for doing it.
>
> Leamas


Leamas and Yankndixie:

As NYC seems to be supporting himself through wagering, he has every right to be
enthusiastic. He has every right to celebrate each victory with the same gusto
with which I celebrate each paycheck.

Is NYC any more enthusiastic than NC Tony was? Any more enthusiastic than Jimbo
or MJellish or Michael D or Silver Charm or Covel or RicK B? Hard to imagine. But
I admire these seven guys not only for their thorough approach, but also for the
fact that they are modest in victory and philosophically humorous after a tough
beat.

The \"fellow fan\" characterization is slightly inaccurate. Pari- mutuel wagering
turns \"fellow fans\" into competitors, and, as such, decorum and sportsmanship
are rather important. The whole notion of being a good winner and a good loser
and all that. I am speaking generally now, not specifically about NYC, and I have
no idea why he apologized and if or why he has been censured by the powers that
be.

Thats one of the reasons I love Living Room Downs. After a score, large or small,
I can pump my fists, do the moonwalk, run out to my terrace and scream YES!! at
the top of my lungs, and the only ones present to roll their eyes and think to
themselves \"What an asshole\" are my wife and our cats.

Message to NYC: I was at Belmont Friday, and they have moved the iconic
Secretariat sculpture to the back of the paddock. Making room for the Ghostzapper
statue?
Title: ROTW
Post by: rayj54 on July 05, 2010, 03:14:25 PM
I know its early but is there any chance that the Smile at Calder will be the ROTW?
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: covelj70 on July 05, 2010, 04:14:36 PM
Richie,

Do you have any idea how much I would pay to see you do the moonwalk?
Title: Re: The Queens Plate
Post by: Footlick on July 08, 2010, 06:09:55 AM
Congrats NYC!
Title: Re: ROTW/Summit of Speed
Post by: ROBERT49 on July 08, 2010, 06:20:32 AM
agree with you-this would be an excellent ROTW. very challenging and competitive race. at least 5 or 6 that can win this, imo. taking a real flyer with trombetta\'s \"other\" horse NFS. like his finishing kick. he is also following the same exact pattern as last year when he won the Carryback. surprised there is no talk at all about the calder card. good luck.
Title: Re: ROTW/Summit of Speed
Post by: rayj54 on July 08, 2010, 05:36:11 PM
I own a piece of Mambo Meister so Im interested in any opinions.We drilled him 3/8 in 34 and out in 46.3 a move that is not seen in these patrts too often.He will need some help up front but he loves this track but the trip is the question.
Title: Re: ROTW/Summit of Speed
Post by: ROBERT49 on July 08, 2010, 06:55:17 PM
MM\'s late pace figs are tremendous. there should be at least 4 horses pressuring big time up front-and BD\'s record at 6 and 7f is almost perfect except for a sy track. but BD is now facing older horses and most of his wins are vs 3yo. imo a closer wins it, i like MM, but at only 4/1, i\'m going with NFS at 15/1.good luck and i hope you win. will be using MM in my ex,tris and pk3/4.