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Title: Question on weights and Zenaytta
Post by: covelj70 on June 14, 2010, 10:32:39 AM
Apologies if we have covered this here before but I don\'t remember it.

Z spotted 9 pds to St T.  

Is 9pds the same for all horses?

Z weighs several hundred pounds more than St. T to begin with so what is 9 more pounds?

Said another way, carrying an extra 9 pounds should theoretically be a bigger negative for St. T than for Z, no?

This is in no way, shape or form intended to diminish anything that Z is doing.  I love her and find her amazing.

Rather, this is an attempt to think about whether I should discount weight assignments on huge horses (fillies or colts) in the future.  

Thoughts?  And again I apologize if this has been discussed before.
Title: Re: Question on weights and Zenaytta
Post by: TGJB on June 14, 2010, 12:18:42 PM
5 pounds = 1 point is an average. We could fine tune it if they gave us the weights of the horses, but they don\'t.
Title: Re: Question on weights and Zenaytta
Post by: covelj70 on June 14, 2010, 12:38:14 PM
so it\'s theorectically ok for me to make some of my own adjustments when I know there\'s a very significant discrepency in the size of the horses?

Z is one of the biggest mares to hit the racetrack in a long time.  Her size and weight could be one of the main reasons that she always looks vulnerable on TG weight adjusted figures yet she never looses.

Maybe 5 pds = 1 point for the average horse but for a horse than weighs 30% more than the average horse, there\'s not as much impact.

I know it\'s a slippery slope but I am just saying in theory, there\'s no issue with my thought process here?
Title: Re: Question on weights and Zenaytta
Post by: jimbo66 on June 14, 2010, 12:44:06 PM
I don\'t know about this correlation between Zenyatta\'s size and her ability/speed.

I keep gaining weight and it isn\'t making me any faster..........
Title: Re: Question on weights and Zenaytta
Post by: covelj70 on June 14, 2010, 01:02:38 PM
Jimbo, an absolute classic.

In my case, I just wish it were as cool for me to be 30% above average weight as it is for Z!
Title: Re: Question on weights and Zenaytta
Post by: TGJB on June 14, 2010, 01:09:18 PM
No issue with the general theory.
Title: Re: Question on weights and Zenaytta
Post by: covelj70 on June 14, 2010, 04:06:36 PM
cool, thanks very much, this could (emphasize COULD) help me alot in the future, much appreciated.