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Title: Soundman
Post by: sekrah on May 22, 2009, 03:26:21 PM
Too early for throwing down a Derby futures?   Wow.. what an impressive animal.

Hand ridden 4 1/2 to :51 2/5ths.   Hope Lukas doesn\'t find a new way to mangle this one.
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: Leamas57 on May 24, 2009, 03:56:59 PM
Where did this happen? I have a friend who starts looking for next years winner right after they run the Derby....
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: sekrah on May 24, 2009, 04:00:25 PM
Friday, Churchill\'s 8th race.

I\'ve watched a pile of them this spring, this is the best I\'ve seen so far.
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: Leamas57 on May 25, 2009, 08:51:23 AM
TYVM
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: dodie on May 25, 2009, 10:36:42 AM
I\'ll give you 1000/1.  Max bet $2.
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: sekrah on May 25, 2009, 12:23:32 PM
Can someone please hold our $2002 in escrow?

Jerry?
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: miff on May 25, 2009, 12:46:06 PM
How about Bernie Madoff?
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: Leamas57 on May 25, 2009, 03:46:41 PM
There was another one at Churchill today that looked like a monster. Hand ride against some expensive and fast horseflesh...
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: BH on May 25, 2009, 08:04:22 PM
Don\'t overlook Overthehump, who won at first asking Saturday race 5 msw at Prairie Meadows. His time wasn\'t as impressive as Soundman\'s but how fast should you run when you\'re winning the race by 9 lengths? By Cactus Ridge.
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: sekrah on June 10, 2009, 11:50:49 PM
Soundman running Thursday at Churchill\'s 2nd race. 5 furlongs, 50k Allowance for 2yo\'s.  

A little too quick back Lukas?   But in Lukas defense, this horse barely ran a lick when he romped by 7 1/4 last time out, its hard to blame him for bringing him back so quickly.

I see he got a 7 h? for that effort.  He should be seeing a stiffer field here with a bunch of MSW winners.  We\'ll see what he\'s got when pushed a little.

Just got done watching the winning race replays of some of the others here, #1 Flatter Than Me and #2 Rib Mountain coming off a 9 and 8 respectively, but both were being push furiously down the stretch.  Flatter Than Me did beat Soundman in his opener on April 29th but Soundman looked more green than in his win on May 22.

2-1 ML, but #5 Western Smoke and Flatter Than Me should each receive a fair share of public money (especially from those who haven\'t seen Soundman).

Loading up on this horse tomorrow.
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: Lost Cause on June 11, 2009, 10:02:20 AM
sekrah Wrote:
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> Soundman running Thursday at Churchill\'s 2nd race.
> 5 furlongs, 50k Allowance for 2yo\'s.  
>
> A little too quick back Lukas?   But in Lukas
> defense, this horse barely ran a lick when he
> romped by 7 1/4 last time out, its hard to blame
> him for bringing him back so quickly.
>
> I see he got a 7 h? for that effort.  He should be
> seeing a stiffer field here with a bunch of MSW
> winners.  We\'ll see what he\'s got when pushed a
> little.
>
> Just got done watching the winning race replays of
> some of the others here, #1 Flatter Than Me and #2
> Rib Mountain coming off a 9 and 8 respectively,
> but both were being push furiously down the
> stretch.  Flatter Than Me did beat Soundman in his
> opener on April 29th but Soundman looked more
> green than in his win on May 22.
>
> 2-1 ML, but #5 Western Smoke and Flatter Than Me
> should each receive a fair share of public money
> (especially from those who haven\'t seen
> Soundman).
>
> Loading up on this horse tomorrow.

1/1 can\'t do it...
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: TGJB on June 11, 2009, 10:52:49 AM
Whether this horse wins or not, there is absolutely no faster way to go broke than betting horses that run big first time out and look impressive doing it. The overall ROI on those is probably 25 cents on the dollar-- what do you know that the public does not?
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: sekrah on June 11, 2009, 11:46:16 AM
Terrible idea by DWL to bring him back on 3 weeks rest.

This is why he hasn\'t had a Derby winner since the stoneage.
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: sekrah on June 11, 2009, 11:48:46 AM
I didn\'t get a bet in on Soundman (overslept the race), and I certaintly wouldn\'t have made any large wagers on him at 4/5 as I was hoping for 5/2.

That being said, my post last night was more on my emotional side than my brain side.   I was shocked Lukas was bringing him back so quickly, my first reaction to seeing his entry was \"Wow, that\'s too quick back\".
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: Ill-bred on June 11, 2009, 12:26:16 PM
The winner looked pretty good.
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: Silver Charm on June 11, 2009, 05:34:36 PM
Being a bit of a Sheet Theorist wished he had not run this one or any of them back this quick but you need to know HIS pedigree to understand why.

FWIT not once but twice he told me he has a bunch good looking 2YO\'s. Exactly when he decides they are supposed to win and which ones they are.

Your guess is as good as mine...........
Title: Re: Soundman
Post by: P-Dub on June 12, 2009, 11:04:43 AM
sekrah Wrote:
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> Terrible idea by DWL to bring him back on 3 weeks
> rest.
>
> This is why he hasn\'t had a Derby winner since the
> stoneage.


Cmon Sekrah,  make up your mind.  This is what you said yesterday...

\"A little too quick back Lukas? But in Lukas defense, this horse barely ran a lick when he romped by 7 1/4 last time out, its hard to blame him for bringing him back so quickly.\"

Before he didn\'t win, you can\'t blame him.  He loses,  so he\'s nuts. On a horse you wanted to pound at 2/1 or 5/2.  Mr. MGM Suites loaded up on Mine That Bird at 6/5.

What the hell is going on around here??  I thought we were trying to find well meant horses at acceptable prices. EVEN money on 1 run closers and 1 fig wonders are now the rage??

Heading to Napa for a little R&R.  I\'ll check to see if the hospital has any room for you 2 guys. Sheesh.