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Title: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: Barry Irwin on May 12, 2009, 02:59:17 PM
In a week that surely must rank as the looniest in memory, comes this absolute stunner.

If anybody can top this, give it a shot!

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-horse-allegation12-2009may12,0,5199327.story
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: sighthound on May 12, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
I\'ll pay $100 to Old Friends retirement charity, to see the two of them square off in a duel.  Has to be non-lethal weapons, though.
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: miff on May 12, 2009, 03:17:45 PM
Jamgotchian,is he certifiable? Shapiro sounds italian, I make him 4-5 in a punch out.



Mike
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: marcus on May 12, 2009, 05:14:41 PM
If the Key doesn\'t fit - you must acquit   . . .
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: Barry Irwin on May 12, 2009, 06:33:44 PM
Supposedly there are 3 separate videos of the incidents.

If the allegations turn out to be true, Shapiro seems a likely candidate for a suicide watch, given the money he lost with Bernie Madoff and the probable loss of his new venture with racing\'s stakeholders in California.

At the very least he will be forced into some sort of probation that includes a \"mandated\" series of sessions with a psychologist.
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: Silver Charm on May 12, 2009, 06:50:43 PM
Barry Irwin Wrote:
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> In a week that surely must rank as the looniest in
> memory, comes this absolute stunner.

Barry what else did I miss?
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: twoshoes on May 12, 2009, 06:52:35 PM
Can we just outlaw racing in California? It seems an appropriate first step in an industry wide 12-step recovery program.
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: marcus on May 12, 2009, 07:59:14 PM
Given the apparent extenuating and ironic circumstances , perhaps Jamgotchian could somehow try to help Shapiro and at the same time help California racing  . . .
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: Barry Irwin on May 12, 2009, 08:42:52 PM
Zayat and Allen lame attempts at shutting out Rachel Alexandra didn\'t strike you as a bit eccentric?
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: Silver Charm on May 13, 2009, 04:28:02 AM
Somebody else seems to agree with you.

http://www.kentucky.com/232/story/793528.html
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: analizethis on May 13, 2009, 06:39:33 AM
I have heard over and over that Jess Jackson is a great sportsman because he raced Curlin as a 4 year-old.
I have always believed that Curlin raced as a 4 year-old because Jackson\'s partners were in jail and their ownership interest was tied up in the Phen phen court case so any sort of breeding syndication was not possible.
Am I crazy?
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: Silver Charm on May 13, 2009, 07:07:13 AM
Good Point and maybe not.

But they did try some things that others would not. Dubai then, the Foster then Turf then Synthetics. Maybe it was where the money was but they did do it.
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: TGJB on May 13, 2009, 08:12:03 AM
Man, having met Shapiro, this is really unbelievable. Yeah, all the stuff that happened may have knocked him off balance, if it\'s true.

On the big picture, the screwy thing is that racing is now looking like NASCAR, which actually will increase coverage. But it\'s hard to think of something worse for the game than if something happens to the filly in front of a national audience, now or ever.
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: analizethis on May 13, 2009, 08:30:06 AM
Good point re: trying different things. Pushing the envelope (Arc) makes things a little more interesting.
The safe \"I\'m afraid to fail\" route is way too prevalent.
Title: Re: Shapiro Allegation Adds to Cuckoo Week
Post by: smalltimer on May 13, 2009, 08:44:38 AM
Absolutely could not agree with you more!!  That makes at least 2 crazy ones.