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Title: 3yr olds pattern read ?
Post by: gohorse10 on May 01, 2009, 09:01:14 PM
Do 3yr olds that pair run a much better # next time & then react to that move the next race.

Some examples of horse that are in the derby:
Desert Party:   Paired -  Moved -  5pts.
Summer Bird :   Paired -  Moved -  7.5pts  
Papa Clem :     Paired -  Moved -  6pts.
Friesan Fire :  Paired -  Moved -  2pts.
Musket Man :    Paired -  Moved -  Paired.

So can we expect since Dunkirk & Hold Me Back just paired that they have a good chance to move forward in the Derby.
Title: Re: 3yr olds pattern read ?
Post by: TGAB on May 02, 2009, 08:28:29 AM
The pattern you\'re identifying is the pairs of top pattern. We talk about this in some depth in the intro tutorial available off the introduction page. Other patterns are also discussed.

Briefly, your observation is spot-on. A pair of tops in a young horse is a sign of strength and often results in a new top shortly thereafter if not next time out. Because Thoro-Graph takes weight carried and ground loss into account, sometimes efforts seemingly nondescript in the results charts are actually better than they appear. And if one of these efforts pairs the immediately previous top, why then you may have a good bet in the making, obviously contingent upon what the rest of the field runs. But it\'s exciting.

Once again, good observation and take a listen to the tutorial when you have a chance and then read some of the archived ROTWs.
Title: Re: 3yr olds pattern read ?
Post by: firmturf on May 02, 2009, 05:50:49 PM
What is a read on a horse that pairs then goes backward? I always expect to see the improvement but when you see one \"react\" to a pair do you make him or her get back to that pair prior to getting back on him?