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Title: oaks/derby double
Post by: pres711 on May 01, 2009, 03:48:34 PM
any one seen payoffs for the double?
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: jumpnthefire on May 01, 2009, 04:22:40 PM
whats the over/under on iwr double $13? lol
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: number5858 on May 01, 2009, 04:27:42 PM
When I checked right before the race, that was it on the nose. $13 with IWR.
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: Michael D. on May 01, 2009, 04:30:22 PM
pres711 Wrote:
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> any one seen payoffs for the double?


Can\'t find the actual payoffs, but for a buck:

1 to 20, for $1 = 74 42 71 97 24 7 30 154 153 32 25 37 6 172 10 11 81 167 25 155


After a quick eyeball of the doubles board (which has more money than the adv win pool), looks something like FF 4-1, IWR 9-2, Dunk 6-1, Pioneer 7-1, CC 12-1, HMB 13-1, DP 15-1, PC 17-1, GQ 20-1.
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: TGJB on May 01, 2009, 04:33:17 PM
Where do you find the current win odds?
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: jmh384 on May 01, 2009, 04:42:53 PM
after the not screwing your adviser law we need a new law. dont promote a two day double if you are unable to give out will pays either before or after the race. they took in alot of money on this bet.
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: Michael D. on May 01, 2009, 04:43:20 PM
TGJB Wrote:
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> Where do you find the current win odds?


EARLY KENTUCKY DERBY ODDS

1. West Side Bernie, 48-1

2. Musket Man, 26-1

3. Mr. Hot Stuff, 33-1

4. Advice, 50-1

5. Hold Me Back, 11-1

6. Friesan Fire, 9-2

7. Papa Clem, 13-1

8. Mine That Bird, 48-1

9. Join in the Dance, 57-1

10. Regal Ransom, 34-1

11. Chocolate Candy, 9-1

12. General Quarters, 5-1

13. I Want Revenge, 6-1

14. Atomic Rain, 68-1

15. Dunkirk, 8-1

16. Pioneerof the Nile, 10-1

17. Summer Bird, 35-1

18. Nowhere to Hide, 52-1

19. Desert Party, 24-1

20. Flying Private, 37-1

Win pool: $463,185
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: tucker on May 01, 2009, 04:44:29 PM
Steve Christ had these posted on his \"Pick Six Derby Day Blog\" at DRF. Since this won\'t paste the way I want.  The first number is ML, the second is odds 25 MTP of the Oaks.  


                      ML   25MTP
 
1 West Side Bernie   30-1 46-1
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 2 Musket Man        20-1 27-1
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 3 Mr. Hot Stuff     30-1 29-1
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 4 Advice            30-1 49-1
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 5 Hold Me Back      15-1 10-1
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 6 Friesan Fire       5-1 4-1
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 7 Papa Clem          20-1 15-1
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 8 Mine That Bird     50-1 60-1
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 9 Join in the Dance   50-1 64-1
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 10 Regal Ransom       30-1 36-1
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 11 Chocolate Candy    20-1 9-1
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 12 General Quarters   20-1 10-1
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 13 I Want Revenge     3-1 6-1
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 14 Atomic Rain       50-1 74-1
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 15 Dunkirk            4-1 7-1
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 16 Pioneerof the Nile 4-1 6-1
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 17 Summer Bird        50-1 47-1
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 18 Nowhere to Hide    50-1 58-1
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 19 Desert Party       15-1 22-1
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 20 Flying Private     50-1 41-1
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: tucker on May 01, 2009, 04:45:08 PM
beat me too it.
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: headstr8ner on May 01, 2009, 04:49:10 PM
1 West Side Bernie $74.50
2 Musket Man $42.90
3 Mr. Hot Stuff  $71.20
4 Advice $97.20
5 Hold Me Back  $24.50
6 Friesan Fire $7.10
7 Papa Clem  $30.70
8 Mine That Bird  $154.60
9 Join In The Dance  $153.50
10 Regal Ransom  $32.90
11 Chocolate Candy  $25.50
12 General Quarters  $37.70
13 I Want Revenge  $6.10
14 Atomic Rain  $172.20
15 Dunkirk  $10.10
16 Pioneerof The Nile  $11.50
17 Summer Bird  $81.90
18 Nowhere To Hide  $167.40
19 Desert Party  $25.30
20 Flying Private  $155.20
Title: Re: oaks/derby double drf link
Post by: flushedstraight on May 01, 2009, 04:54:26 PM
http://www.drf.com/news/article/103463.html (http://www.drf.com/news/article/103463.html)
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: jmh384 on May 01, 2009, 04:54:33 PM
ill assume thats for 1 dollar got me scared for a minute. ty your a prince
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: chrifron on May 01, 2009, 05:26:16 PM
Current Derby odds are being scrolled on TVG throughout the day--couldn\'t find them on any on-line phone bet sites--TVG is reporting an unconfirmed rumor that Sheik Mohammed may be on his way to the Derby (he has never done this before)--here are latest odds as of 8:20PM:

1) 48-1
2) 26-1
3) 33-1
4) 50-1
5) 11-1
6) 9-2
7) 13-1
8) 48-1
9) 57-1
10) 34-1
11) 9-1
12) 5-1
13) 6-1
14) 68-1
15) 8-1
16) 10-1
17) 35-1
18) 52-1
19) 24-1
20) 37-1
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: jmh384 on May 01, 2009, 05:28:48 PM
sshhhhh i like his horse
Title: Re: oaks/derby double drf link
Post by: pres711 on May 01, 2009, 05:33:14 PM
thanks for the post.  was hoping for better with RR/ff.
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: Electrocutioner on May 01, 2009, 08:31:11 PM
Puzzling- then what do you make of Dettori staying to ride in the UK? Godolphin has him in Group 1 races on Saturday and Sunday, purses are 400,000 UK for the top two races. But if they thought he (Desert Party) had a real shot, wouldn\'t Dettori come for the Derby? Alternatively, if the Sheik is coming, does that imply high confidence in RR?
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: Holybull on May 02, 2009, 01:49:25 AM
5-1 on General Quarters????
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: Uncle Buck on May 02, 2009, 05:23:47 AM
General Quarters got pounded yesterday because all the locals come to the track on Fri to place their Derby bets. McCarthy is the talk of the town and people bet this story - not the horse. I think Leparoux\'s success at Keeneland also plays well with the local folks so its no surprise. I expect him to drift way up today back to around 16-1 or higher. That said - he does have some tactical speed, shouldn\'t be too far off and might love the slop. Might get a small check
Title: Re: oaks/derby double
Post by: number5858 on May 02, 2009, 06:02:18 AM
He has two other positives: 1. Mullins isn\'t his trainer (maybe that should count twice) 2. grade 1 winner