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Title: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: APny on April 30, 2009, 02:31:47 PM
If Jeff Mullins wins the Kentucky Derby this year...following Rick Dutrow\'s win in 2008.  I\'m just putting it out there.
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: richiebee on April 30, 2009, 04:38:52 PM
One thing that it would say to me is that a slick character who they ran off of
Wall Street a few years back is apparently a better judge of horseflesh than
Sheikh Mo, Tabor/Magnier and a whole bunch of Kentucky hardboots.

Jimbo\'s 55/1 future bet easy to root for, Iavarone and Mullins are not. Remember
the latter basically called us all \"assholes\" or \"idiots\" a few years ago.
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: shanahan on April 30, 2009, 06:51:44 PM
I normally avoid all Mullins horses for the stated quote Richie...he\'s an ass.  Further , he\'s a 2nd off layoff trainer anyway, so screw him altogether.

Trifecta box 2 days out - Regal Ransom, Friesan Fire, POTN, Desert...good luck to all, unless it rains harder...
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: Barry Irwin on April 30, 2009, 08:42:18 PM
It will mean that history keeps repeating itself in the Kentucky Derby.

It means he will become a Hall of Fame trainer.

Because history keeps repeating itself.

It means that Arizona is the source of some of the greatest trainers in the history of Thoroughbred racing.
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: imallin on April 30, 2009, 11:20:12 PM
Wasn\'t Doug O\'Neill some obscure Arizona trainer who hit the big time virtually overnight?
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: chrifron on May 01, 2009, 02:28:53 AM
Andy Beyer wrote a vicious piece today on Washington Post and DRF about Mullins--maybe one of the most venom-filled (no pun intended) articles I have ever read on any subject. He takes us through Mullins\' history and opines that the 7-day suspension in NY shows that the industry...\"despite its posturing, isn\'t serious about policing itself\"...

He brings up Dutrow last year and says ...\"Could anything be worse?
Meet Jeff Mullins, the trainer of I Want Revenge, who is favored to win Saturday\'s Derby\"... ouch
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: alm on May 01, 2009, 06:50:41 AM
Drug O\'Neill, as some refer to him in SoCal, did not appear overnight...he was an average claiming trainer for quite a few years when I lived there...who became a huge success one year...discovering underappreciated claimers who he moved up dramatically in form.

Kind of like Silent Tom Smith and Seabuiscuit.
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: TGJB on May 01, 2009, 10:50:19 AM
Where is Andy\'s piece on Mullins in the DRF?  What day, what page?
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: imallin on May 01, 2009, 11:16:35 AM
Just put \'andy beyer jeff mullins\' in the google search and the link to the article is the first thing that comes up.
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: TGJB on May 01, 2009, 11:26:43 AM
Okay, I read it. He\'s making one false assumption, which nobody seems to be paying any attention to-- they tested the bottle Mullins was caught with in the detntion barn, and so far have not released the results. We don\'t know if it was Air Power or not.
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: miff on May 01, 2009, 11:53:06 AM
JB,

Mullins would not have gotten off with 7 days and $2,500 fine if there was anything else but Air Power in that bottle.Trust me when I tell you that NYSWB/NYRA are looking to hang anyone who gets caught with a major violation(not just an overage of a legal or an administrative bull violation)


Mike
Title: Re: What does it mean for racing....
Post by: TGJB on May 01, 2009, 12:15:51 PM
Time will tell.