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Title: West Side Bernie
Post by: jack72906 on April 30, 2009, 01:01:36 PM
I recently heard a report that WSB is a notorious bleeder and has a tendency to get worked up in a bad way pre-race. If he\'s getting worked up at Turfway, what\'s going to happen on Derby Day?

Can anyone confirm this or have any thoughts?

Thanks.

Jack
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: Beginner on April 30, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
I hope this isn\'t the \"karma\" choice for the infamous \"east side Bernie\" Madoff. For those not in NYC, Madoff lived and worked on the east side of the city.
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: Uncle Buck on April 30, 2009, 01:14:33 PM
Jack. You hear all kinds of things during Derby week. One guy got on here in 2007 started telling us that Liquidity couldn\'t lose and was the best race horse ever:-). In Liquidity\'s defense, he did clear a nice gap for Street Sense to shoot through and go on to win! If you like what WSB has done on dirt, play him as you see fit. Good luck!

Crazy stuff is being said all across the country this week. Yesterday in a makeshift press conference outside the San Francisco Chronicle, some quack real- estate broker from Orange County claimed the infamous Zodiac killer was her father. It was a media circus but no doubt a hoax. Human beings are capable of saying and doing just about anything in today\'s world. Especially if they\'re from Orange County:-)
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: jack72906 on April 30, 2009, 01:17:32 PM
Thanks UB. I actually sent an email into TVG today and Nick Hines made the comments on air. Probably should have said that in the original post.
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: HP on April 30, 2009, 01:40:45 PM
My thought is at 25 or 30-1 I will use him.
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: APny on April 30, 2009, 02:28:36 PM
I want to use him because I\'ve thought all along this horse has been developing nicely...but I just can\'t get the Holy Bull race at GP out of my head on 1/31.  He figured to run big that day....great pattern.  But it appeared that he wanted nothing to do with the added distance. He made a great move around the turn only to flatten out in the stretch and sputter home.  His race in Wood didn\'t prove to me any differently.  I just can\'t see this horse with questionable distance breeding hitting the trifecta on Saturday.
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: jack72906 on April 30, 2009, 02:30:19 PM
That\'s why I\'m playing the horse. If he didn\'t have any question marks he wouldn\'t be a price. Count me in.
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: sekrah on April 30, 2009, 02:54:03 PM
I agree, that race was there for the taken.  But maybe he wasn\'t feeling well that day.  Maybe poor training regimen the prior week.  Maybe he didn\'t like the track at GP. Watching the race again, the track looks very dry and not very grabby, kinda like poly.   I saw a Breen quote where he said nobody came from behind and did any better than 4th that day.

He ran the final 3f in 38.4 in that one.  He ran the final 3f in the Wood in 36.1.
Title: Re: West Side Bernie
Post by: jmetro on April 30, 2009, 04:03:46 PM
sekrah Wrote:
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> I saw a Breen quote where he said
> nobody came from behind and did any better than
> 4th that day.
>
> He ran the final 3f in 38.4 in that one.  He ran
> the final 3f in the Wood in 36.1.

Breen is right.  The only other two turn dirt route that day was the Donn and they crawled home in that one too, last 1/8th in 13 3/5.  Interesting that three horses in the Donn were eased in the stretch run of that race.