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Title: Oh for Three
Post by: Silver Charm on April 09, 2009, 06:26:51 PM
Stardom Bound 3/5
Evita Angelina 3/5
Ventura 2/5

Either the West Coast Figs are too fast or there is a bit of a problem moving from Calif Synth to Keene Synth.
Title: Re: Oh for Three
Post by: Michael D. on April 09, 2009, 06:56:02 PM
Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Stardom Bound 3/5
> Evita Angelina 3/5
> Ventura 2/5
>
> Either the West Coast Figs are too fast or there
> is a bit of a problem moving from Calif Synth to
> Keene Synth.


I\'m pretty sure most of us beat SB with the figures. Some of us then got beat because Gozzip Girl, 9-1, went 2 or 3 paths wider than she should have.
Title: Re: Oh for Three
Post by: Lost Cause on April 09, 2009, 07:45:05 PM
Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Stardom Bound 3/5
> Evita Angelina 3/5
> Ventura 2/5
>
> Either the West Coast Figs are too fast or there
> is a bit of a problem moving from Calif Synth to
> Keene Synth.


The top two were definitely beatable and Ventura was beat -barely- by the next best horse who saved ground.  Not too tough on any of those.
Title: Re: Oh for Three
Post by: EJXD2 on April 10, 2009, 06:53:02 AM
I didn\'t like any of those horses and used Thorograph each day, so the figures seem right.

Sadly, I only cashed on Informed Decision (loved Selva and spread in the Ashland but didn\'t land on the winner).

Ventura was clearly best (how many more feed did she travel?). Gomez said she gets lazy once she makes the lead.
Title: Re: Oh for Three
Post by: Silver Charm on April 10, 2009, 07:52:00 AM
The West Coast Figs are too fast was sarcasm because did we not have a debate here recently saying they were too slow compared to the East Coast.

Stardom Bound looked turtle like on TG.
Ventura did not have her same punch. She did not pull herself up in the BC Filly Sprint did she.  
Evita Angelina might be telling you what some of those West Coast Colts are like.

All three may be telling you there is a BIG difference between the SA surface and the Kee surface. Maybe.....
Title: Re: Oh for Three
Post by: miff on April 10, 2009, 10:20:34 AM
Not very surprising,they were all wide running one run closers.
Title: Re: Oh for Three
Post by: marcus on April 10, 2009, 12:28:07 PM
I\'m seeing dead rail symbols for some of last weeks Keeneland numbers and it remains to be seen whether Keeneland will favor closers like it did in So Cal at Santa Anita - where it\'s almost like handicapping a turf race  . . . Perhaps without an extreme bias to closers , and fewer race outcomes decided in the last 70 yards or less ,Horses that lose ground ,regardless of running style  , are more prone imo to pay the price for wide trips when don\'t have enough time (or stamina )to run the extra distance before the race is over     . . .