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Title: Hong Kong races
Post by: phil123 on December 11, 2008, 02:50:23 PM
Any chance of some numbers for the HK races this weekend?
Title: Re: Hong Kong races
Post by: TGJB on December 11, 2008, 03:09:21 PM
We\'re juggling a lot of balls (projects) right now, so we probably won\'t try and get the Homg Kong races up this weekend. We\'re now shooting to have the foreign stuff for sale by the World Cup.
Title: Re: Hong Kong races
Post by: high roller on December 11, 2008, 03:24:03 PM
hi phil, where can you play hong kong?
Title: Re: Hong Kong races
Post by: phil123 on December 11, 2008, 03:44:40 PM
The english books have odds up for all the races.  Don\'t know if anywhere will be offering paramutuel.
Title: Re: Hong Kong races
Post by: randy_yu on December 11, 2008, 10:05:07 PM
Foxwoods Resort Casino in Mashantucket, CT offers simulcast transmissions for the Hong Kong races.  All wagers go into the Hong Kong paramutuel pool.
Title: NTRA ACCREDITATION PROGRAM
Post by: miff on December 12, 2008, 07:27:41 AM
TUCSON, Ariz. - The National Thoroughbred Racing Association is reviewing an annual budget and identifying its certification requirements for a program designed to address public concerns about racehorse and rider safety, the executive chairman of the NTRA said Thursday at the University of Arizona Symposium on Racing in Tucson.

Bob Elliston, the NTRA chairman and the president of Turfway Park, said that the accreditation program had not yet been formally launched because of the amount of work necessary to get it off the ground. The program will likely have a budget of $800,000 in 2009, Elliston said, and will require racetracks to adopt specific practices in order to be certified as being in compliance. Fifty-five racetracks have pledged to participate in the program.

The NTRA announced the formation of the program in October in response to lingering fallout from the high-profile breakdowns of a number of racehorses over the past three years, culminating with the death of the filly Eight Belles after her second-place finish in the Kentucky Derby this year. Compliance with the program will not be mandatory for racetracks, but NTRA officials have said that they believe that racing fans will avoid betting on uncertified tracks.

\"We want to publish individual accreditation awareness and progress, and the betting public will follow that accreditation and vote with their wallets,\" Elliston said.


Really Mr. Elliston???

......so, if the major venues with the country\'s best race meets/horses(CALI,NY,KENTUCKY,FLORIDA)do NOT get certified by NTRA,then the bettors should not wager there, but at the smaller NTRA certified venues with garbage racing---BRILLIANT!!.

Not a snowballs chance in hell.Another clueless empty suit.Since the article states than 55 venues have signed on, the point is moot.It might enlighten Mr. Elliston to see what would happen to the handle at Saratoga if NYRA decided to pull out of the NTRA accreditation program,probably nothing.


Mike
Title: Re: NTRA ACCREDITATION PROGRAM
Post by: Ill-bred on December 12, 2008, 09:09:50 AM
I would prefer a tote integrity certification over this...
Title: Re: NTRA ACCREDITATION PROGRAM
Post by: TGJB on December 12, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
That\'s not the problem. All the big tracks will do what is necessary to get \"accredited\"-- they\'re the ones with the money.

The problem is that, unlike the Jockey Club recommendations, the NTRA plan doesn\'t solve the problem. Everybody jumped on it because it was stress free-- wouldn\'t cost them much, made them look good. The JC plan also didn\'t cover enough ground (so far, they\'re not done)-- but the two specific recommendations (both of which came from me, although probably not only from me) would have a big impact. Those were a) freeze blood samples, and b) publish TCO2 test results (the JC actually went further with this, into proper testing proceedures for TCO2, which many tracks are not following).

More to come on this, I\'m waiting to see what happens over the next couple of months. There is a strong chance WE are going to have to make things happen this spring.
Title: Re: NTRA ACCREDITATION PROGRAM
Post by: miff on December 12, 2008, 12:08:07 PM
\"That\'s not the problem. All the big tracks will do what is necessary to get \"accredited\"-- they\'re the ones with the money.\"

JB,


Check with the big gamblers that you know and I\'ll guess that many don\'t give a rats ass about an accreditation from a powerless NTRA.They are not even scratching the surface of the real concerns of regular gamblers, so far.Just one poster here correctly stated that the integrity of the pari mutuel systems rate far higher on the list than the entire \"so so\" proposal linked to accreditation.

I would add that publishing TC02 results would also rate MUCH higher.


Mike