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Title: ROTW
Post by: Michael D. on November 22, 2008, 07:21:55 AM
love the sheet on That\'srightofficer (12-1 ml). 5 top at two, couple of 3\'s this year. good spacing for this one. nice inside post, and gets some pace to run at.

predicting a ground saving run in the 1-2 range.

play That\'sright in the top three spots at a decent price.
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: Michael D. on November 22, 2008, 01:34:55 PM
nice analysis Alan. WT was indeed very live.

the scratch of Big Truck did not help, as he was just one of three bad favorites.
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: TGAB on November 22, 2008, 03:56:25 PM
Thanks. Big Truck is a bad 2nd choice tomorrow too.
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: Michael D. on November 22, 2008, 04:20:46 PM
TGAB Wrote:
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> Thanks. Big Truck is a bad 2nd choice tomorrow
> too.


I didn\'t like the horse going longer than 1m Alan. take a look at Tagg\'s other distance challenged 3 yr old, ToE, before tossing this guy.

I don\'t even have the pp\'s for the race though, so I have no idea.
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: number5858 on November 22, 2008, 07:27:13 PM
So I bet Wishful Tomcat over what I saw as the possible contenders in the 9th in the Daily Double. Sure, I had the winner Tiz True to complete the double, but I was sweating it when the 30/1 shot Master went off at 3/1? How does the morning line oddsmaker miss that badly?
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: miff on November 23, 2008, 06:37:30 AM
Tagg is app 0-45in NY, last couple months, colder than the weather.


Mike
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: Uncle Buck on November 23, 2008, 06:53:03 AM
Tagg would have had a winner in the 7th yesterday (Pastel Gal) but Coa BUTCHERED the ride.
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: miff on November 23, 2008, 07:04:25 AM
Number5858,

The 30-1 ML odds on MASTER was an obvious mistake. If you look at the PP\'s and/ or the TG figs, Master was an obvious contender.Nice hit!

Incidentally,I feel the ML is the most irrelevant thing in racing. Just open the windows and let the \"free market\" make the odds, which is somewhat what happens anyway.I think the betting sites where you shop for odds has an interesting future if they expand it and make it more available in this country.


Mike
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: miff on November 23, 2008, 07:12:14 AM
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Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: Thehoarsehorseplayer on November 23, 2008, 07:59:42 AM
Actually, Tom Durkin announced a few times during the course of the program that the morning line odds on Master and Driven by Fear should be transposed.  Driven by Fear, who was a late scratch, should have been listed at 30-1 and Master 4-1.
Title: Re: ROTW
Post by: number5858 on November 23, 2008, 10:37:37 AM
Thank you for the info. That makes a lot more sense. Unfortunately, I hadn\'t planned on betting the daily double, so I hadn\'t handicapped the last race. I was looking for leverage at the last minute because of the 5-1 odds I was seeing on Wishful Tomcat. I took a quick look at the double payoffs, and they looked juicy, so I bet the double. I have noticed a situation a lot lately where the horse I want to key (usually the 3rd-5th ML odds favorite) is getting well bet, but the public is overlooking the associated double. The result is double payoffs that are a lot better than my key horse\'s odds in the current race.

I did it again later in the day at Golden Gate in the 8th race by betting the double by betting the 7 horse, Siren Lure, with the field in the 9th race for a $290/$2 payoff. The race shape for the GG 8th showed a ton of early speed and not too many closers. It seemed really nicely setup for Siren Lure who had the back class as a GR1 winner with the favorite, Indyanne, heading the wrong way. Two recent bullet works and 3rd start off the layoff sealed the deal for me with Siren Lure. I made it a prime win bet with the double.

I believe Alan handicapped the ROTW this week, so I just wanted to express my thanks for the win this week and to everyone at TG for the education I have been getting this past year when I started using the sheets.