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Title: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: shanahan on July 22, 2008, 03:58:33 AM
It is my opinion that this meet is all about speed for the first 2 weeks in particular...after that, not so clearly dominant...thoughts?
Title: Re: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: jbelfior on July 22, 2008, 04:08:02 AM
This is especially true, assuming lack of rain, on the Mellon turf course.


Good Luck,
Joe B.
Title: Re: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: miff on July 22, 2008, 05:33:40 AM
Last year at the SPA:

10 Days speed did well

13 Days closers did well

11 days were honest

There was no time period when the track got biased for many days in a row.


Turf courses played honest except when like cement or when soft/boggy. Pray that you do not get blocked along the inside or carried wide that first turn on the inner(esp mile races for 2yr olds.) as often happens here.

There is lots of rain in the forecast for the first week and this track superintendent has become famous for both sealing and not \"fluffing\" the surface. Both of these procedures have a tendency to affect the performance of certain running styles.

Pray for no rain and  thread lightly early on to see if any bias develops. No worse angle than betting a horse who\'s running style will be adversely affected by a track\'s profile.

Good Luck!

Mike
Title: Re: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: heatherk on July 22, 2008, 06:26:39 AM
Is the Mellon course the inner or outer?
Title: Re: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: JR on July 22, 2008, 10:23:59 AM
Wednesday washout. 1 to 2 inches of rain in tomorrow\'s forecast.
Title: Re: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: gowand on July 22, 2008, 05:48:40 PM
Got a big storm with heavy rain about 4:00pm today.  No real rain expected until late afternoon or early evening on Wednesday.  Then they are now saying 2-4 inches through Thursday which will washout everything on the turf for a while.  It cleared up nicely after the storm but we still might be off the turf opening day.
Title: Re: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: girly on July 23, 2008, 05:17:24 AM
It\'s pouring rain and thunderstorms here this morning- expected to stay intermittant but heavy today-
Title: Re: Saratoga 1st 2 weeks
Post by: jbelfior on July 23, 2008, 07:02:35 PM
The Mellon is the outer course. I had a conversation with Migliore several years back asking why speed did better on the Mellon than the inner.

His thoughts were that the turns were so sharp on the inner that unless you were at least 2 lengths in front turning for home, you actually had to take a hold of your mount which negated the advantage over horses closing on the outer paths.


Good Luck,
Joe B.