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Title: Preliminary necropsy results Eight Belles (drf)
Post by: rosewood on May 06, 2008, 04:03:08 PM
Heart failure or aneurysm ruled out, owner says
By GLENYE CAIN OAKFORD

LEXINGTON, Ky. - Preliminary results from the necropsy on Eight Belles showed that the filly did not have heart failure or an aneurysm before breaking down in Saturday\'s Kentucky Derby, according to her owner, Rick Porter of Fox Hill Farms.

Eight Belles finished second behind Big Brown in the race but was euthanized after suffering condylar fractures in both front ankles as she galloped out.

Kentucky state stewards and state veterinarian Dr. Leif Nichols ordered the necropsy, the term for an autopsy performed on animals, and the procedure took place at the Livestock Disease Diagnostic Center in Lexington. Porter was unsure what day the necropsy took place.

A full report from the necropsy is expected to take at least two weeks. Eight Belles has been cremated, but Porter has not yet decided on an interment site.

\"The initial report didn\'t show anything other than what it appeared to be,\" Porter said. \"There was nothing with the heart or an aneurysm or anything like that. It came from the leg injuries.

\"I know [trainer] Larry Jones wanted her tested for steroids, because he told me they were accusing him of using steroids because she was such a big filly, and I don\'t know how that\'s coming,\" he added, referring to protests against Jones by animal-rights groups. \"I\'m sure the results will be negative.\"

Porter noted that Eight Belles is by a large sire, the 17-hand Unbridled\'s Song, and said that the 3-year-old filly was not on anything other than Lasix, also known by the trade name Salix, a diuretic that is commonly and legally used on the racetrack to reduce blood pressure in the lungs during exercise.

\"As far as I\'m concerned, I\'ll be glad if they test her for anything,\" Porter said. \"I see the bills, and I know Larry Jones, and I know he\'s not using anything that would be detrimental to the health of the horse. I know he puts the horse absolutely first. I see all the vet bills from Larry, and it\'s rare that I see a vet bill of $100 a month on a horse. I\'ve never gotten a bill for an injection in two years.

\"I didn\'t think we would find anything,\" Porter said of the necropsy. \"I don\'t know what we can prove by it. I think it was just a tragic breakdown. . . . She was galloping out beautifully, absolutely normally, and then boom.\"

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Title: Re: Preliminary necropsy results Eight Belles (drf)
Post by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 on May 06, 2008, 05:55:46 PM
Thanks rosewood,

Lets wait for the full report, but if Porter\'s statement that Jones requested Steroid testing is true, it speaks volumes about Larry Jones. Tentatively, my belief is that Jones is a very good trainer. I would point out that Tim Ritchey discovered Afleet Alex\'s infirmity before a breakdown occurred. Let\'s see what the full autopsy concludes.

rosewood Wrote:
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> Heart failure or aneurysm ruled out, owner says
> By GLENYE CAIN OAKFORD
>
> LEXINGTON, Ky. - Preliminary results from the
> necropsy on Eight Belles showed that the filly did
> not have heart failure or an aneurysm before
> breaking down in Saturday\'s Kentucky Derby,
> according to her owner, Rick Porter of Fox Hill
> Farms.
>
> Eight Belles finished second behind Big Brown in
> the race but was euthanized after suffering
> condylar fractures in both front ankles as she
> galloped out.
>
> Kentucky state stewards and state veterinarian Dr.
> Leif Nichols ordered the necropsy, the term for an
> autopsy performed on animals, and the procedure
> took place at the Livestock Disease Diagnostic
> Center in Lexington. Porter was unsure what day
> the necropsy took place.
>
> A full report from the necropsy is expected to
> take at least two weeks. Eight Belles has been
> cremated, but Porter has not yet decided on an
> interment site.
>
> \"The initial report didn\'t show anything other
> than what it appeared to be,\" Porter said. \"There
> was nothing with the heart or an aneurysm or
> anything like that. It came from the leg
> injuries.
>
> \"I know  Larry Jones wanted her tested for
> steroids, because he told me they were accusing
> him of using steroids because she was such a big
> filly, and I don\'t know how that\'s coming,\" he
> added, referring to protests against Jones by
> animal-rights groups. \"I\'m sure the results will
> be negative.\"
>
> Porter noted that Eight Belles is by a large sire,
> the 17-hand Unbridled\'s Song, and said that the
> 3-year-old filly was not on anything other than
> Lasix, also known by the trade name Salix, a
> diuretic that is commonly and legally used on the
> racetrack to reduce blood pressure in the lungs
> during exercise.
>
> \"As far as I\'m concerned, I\'ll be glad if they
> test her for anything,\" Porter said. \"I see the
> bills, and I know Larry Jones, and I know he\'s not
> using anything that would be detrimental to the
> health of the horse. I know he puts the horse
> absolutely first. I see all the vet bills from
> Larry, and it\'s rare that I see a vet bill of $100
> a month on a horse. I\'ve never gotten a bill for
> an injection in two years.
>
> \"I didn\'t think we would find anything,\" Porter
> said of the necropsy. \"I don\'t know what we can
> prove by it. I think it was just a tragic
> breakdown. . . . She was galloping out
> beautifully, absolutely normally, and then boom.\"
>
> Home | News | Entries | Results | Tools | PPs &
> Data | DRF Store | Video
Title: Re: Preliminary necropsy results Eight Belles (drf)
Post by: miff on May 07, 2008, 06:25:10 AM
\"Lets wait for the full report, but if Porter\'s statement that Jones requested Steroid testing is true, it speaks volumes about Larry Jones. Tentatively, my belief is that Jones is a very good trainer. I would point out that Tim Ritchey discovered Afleet Alex\'s infirmity before a breakdown occurred. Let\'s see what the full autopsy concludes\"


Chuck,

You may not be aware that certain steroids are legal. The winner,BB, reportedly raced on Winstrol as I\'m sure many other derby runners did. Surprising that the filly was not on Winstrol since many outfits use this steroid on fillys.There\'s a misconception about certain steroids which are strongly recommended by many top vets to help racehorses recover from exertion,etc.


Mike