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Title: Derby Double
Post by: TGJB on May 02, 2008, 03:40:41 PM
Anybody know where to find the will-pays?
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: Michael D. on May 02, 2008, 03:43:15 PM
Proud Spell 50% to win - pays $8.80. talk about value handicapping. nice call Jerry.

but no, I don\'t know the DD numbers. unfortunately, I don\'t need to.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: jmh384 on May 02, 2008, 03:49:14 PM
i had same question. its frustrating that they make a big deal over betting double and then don\'t give you will pays
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: ronwar on May 02, 2008, 04:14:31 PM
This was up when the gates opened.  It may be a little different, but close-

$2 Double Pool
$1,625,442

8 with

1-$436          
2-$312
3-$778
4-$132
5-$212
6-$143
7-$848
8-$235
9-$55
10-$54
11-$644        
12-$369
13-$514
14-$281
15-$297
16-$224
17-$593
18-$578
19-$227
20-$37
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: SonicDonn on May 02, 2008, 04:20:50 PM
From NYC OTB

8/
 436.00
 312.20
 778.00
 132.20
 212.00
 143.60
 848.20
 235.60
 55.80
 54.80
 644.80
 369.60
 514.80
 281.60
 297.00
 224.20
 593.80
 578.60
 227.00
 37.80

Hey Jerry, who are you alive with? Send me a PM.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: TGJB on May 02, 2008, 04:26:40 PM
I\'m live with the six I mentioned in the seminar.

Hard to believe the doubles with Pyro and Court Vision are that short.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: SonicDonn on May 02, 2008, 04:29:57 PM
Good luck, I wish I was in your shoes.

Do you make a definitive pick in the seminar or pick the six you think are good plays?
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: miff on May 02, 2008, 04:30:07 PM
Pyro, believable,Court Vision unbelievable.


Mike
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: TGJB on May 02, 2008, 04:31:03 PM
That\'s why people buy the seminar.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: firmturf on May 02, 2008, 04:32:38 PM
436 312 778 132 212 143 848 235 55 54 644 369 514 281 297 224 593 578 227 37

That\'s from Twinspires.com

Sorry it\'s in this format - getting it from the wagering screen.

It reads left to right, 1 -20.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: SonicDonn on May 02, 2008, 04:33:49 PM
That is the correct answer.

I am sure you are going to sleep well tonight.

Good luck again.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 on May 02, 2008, 04:34:35 PM
lol...congrats

TGJB Wrote:
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> That\'s why people buy the seminar.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: Uncle Buck on May 02, 2008, 04:35:17 PM
Tricky must\'ve bet both IEAH horses in the double?
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 on May 02, 2008, 04:38:35 PM
I just hope the off odds reflect the double pays
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: SonicDonn on May 02, 2008, 04:47:23 PM
That $15 is for the Oaks and the Derby? What a bargain. I\'m sick I missed it, gotta quit that damn job.

I guess the price stays at $15 for the Derby only???

I hope it doesn\'t turn out to be one of those \"missed the wedding but showed up for the funeral\" situations.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: jbelfior on May 02, 2008, 05:01:10 PM
TGJB:


Not sure why you\'re shocked. People love betting closers in a race like this. I would love to book every bet at Churchill tomorrow on COURT VISION. I know a lot of bad players who love him tomorrow screaming fast pace, he loves Churchill, Gomez, Mott, etc. These are guys that if they bet on the sun rising in the east tomorrow the earth would suddenly start rotating the other way.


Good Luck,
Joe B.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: jbelfior on May 02, 2008, 05:06:24 PM
I find it interesting that the double with BIG TRUCK is the highest potential pay out while he is only 20-1 (as of 6PM.)


Good Luck,
Joe B.
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: Rick B. on May 02, 2008, 06:09:20 PM
IEAH is backed by a bunch of Wall Street guys -- are we really surprised that they are hedging with Court Vision?
 
Where else would all of that early money be coming from -- the public?
Title: Re: Derby Double
Post by: jimbo66 on May 02, 2008, 06:17:46 PM
Joe B,

I am not saying he is a good bet at 12-1, which he looks like he will be, but have you read the sheets?  I would say Court Vision is the horse MOST LIKELY to run a new top, period.  He needs one to win and 12-1 on a horse that needs a 2 or 3 point new top and a good trip, is probably not good enough.

But don\'t discount the money on the horse as people betting Gomez, Mott, etc.  His pattern says \"go\".