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Title: Thanks for the free sheets
Post by: toppled on December 31, 2007, 10:33:22 AM
I for one really appreciated the past few days of free sheets.  Thanks to Thorograph, I was able to hit a $350 exacta in the 7th at FG Saturday.
I\'m more used to the hard copy books rather than the internet copies (I don\'t have the printer capabilities to print a large volume of sheets) since I usually buy my Thorographs at the Albany teletheatre, but reading them on the computer obviously worked.
Keep up the good work.  I hope there\'s some good data in tomorrow\'s Simulcast book I just bought.
Title: Re: Thanks for the free sheets
Post by: RICH on December 31, 2007, 11:11:10 AM
hey toppled

that was nice on sat, take a look at race 6 today at FG. How about the 11 at 15-1? More than a few things to like.
Title: Re: Thanks for the free sheets
Post by: arod52 on December 31, 2007, 11:12:58 AM
I took advantage of TG\'s generosity this holiday season and mainly downloaded the analysis for several of the tracks.

I must admit I was a little disappointed. I got a lesson.

NOTHING COMES EASY IN THE GAME!!!!

The analysis\' were interesting but not profitable. They pointed out a nice winner or two but overall the flat bet was in the red. Yes, a limited sample but a sample none the less. I was looking for an easy path and found that blindly following the analysis, over the past few days, was not the answer . I just looked over the FG-7th Toppled referred to. Obviously Toppled is an experienced TG figs interpreter. The analysis didn\'t point out the way to his winning exacta. Toppled handicapping using the FG figs did! Congrats!

No regrets just just old lesson relearned. You have to work to win at this game!

I really do appreciate the chance to get a close look at TG and hope to do so again next holiday season. Hey I might even become good enough where I too can make a nice score thanks to the TG data. And start buying the data instead of just being a free\"down\"loader. I have no doubt their figs are superior but as we all know: blindly betting the top rated horse is not going to be the answer. Nor is following another\'s selection sheet.  

Interpreting the data is the key.

THANK YOU for the opportunity. I\'ll be battling the mutuals today. We are several runs down and it is the bottom of the eighth but we still have a couple more innings to pull this thing out!
Title: Re: Thanks for the free sheets
Post by: RICH on December 31, 2007, 11:38:49 AM
off the turf too bad
Title: Re: Thanks for the free sheets
Post by: drbillym on January 01, 2008, 05:04:59 AM
Don\'t give up too soon, arod.  5 days is probably not a valid sample.  I began using the free race of the week a couple months ago, and won so much I felt obligated to pay back some of my winnings by subscribing to the analysis for at least a couple weeks.  Well, I kept on winning by playing every race as outlined for the track I chose that day.  Until the free week, I was way ahead, and yes, the last 5 days were disappointing, but I am still ahead, and must say doing better than had I handicapped on my own.  The TG system does seem to pay off in the long run, but I\'ll see how it continues to go.
Part of the \"luck factor\" for me is choosing which track to play.  It is too overwhelming and expensive to play all tracks available, so I am always anxious the next morning to check the redboard room and see if I had done better using a different track.
I think that the best results are when you handicap a card fully on your own and then check the analysis for further insight and adjustment of your bets. But if you like playing everyday and don\'t have time to handicap I think the analysis seems to be the best service around.
Title: Re: Thanks for the free sheets
Post by: toppled on January 01, 2008, 07:07:01 AM
Since I live near a place where I can buy the books, I usually end up buying the Simulcast Book or books.  It gives one multiple tracks using the Thoro-quick past performances.  Today there are 6 tracks for $40.  5 are in the racing form-I don\'t use Thorograph without a racing form because I use workouts a lot in my handicapping.  
With 5 tracks (I\'m not playing Golden Gate since I have no form pps) I have enough data to pick my spots.  I\'ve bought pps for 1 track & came up empty on some days so sometimes if one is choosing just one, you could end up paying for a day with no plays-the simulcast book reduces the chances of this happening,
At the risk of totally embarrassing myself, since I\'m due to crash & burn after cleaning up this weekend, here\'s what I like today (as you\'ll see, I like races with lightly raced horses):
Calder:
1st-I like the FL shipper #7 to win. Playing DD 7/7 saver possibilities 7/4,5.  p3 add the #2 in the 3rd to the DDs.
3rd- p3 2/2,4,8/3
5th-Here\'s the 1st of several I really like.  #3 is 6-1 ml, comes in from Retama where she was blocked in a similar stakes race, she has slightly higher sheet # than the 9 but she could easily be 2 for 2 if not blocked.  #9 is clearly the one to beat,having won the Selima at Laurel.  Box 3/9 exacta, saver exacta box 3/4.  Playing some kind of $1 key (tri & or super) with 4,6,9,12 behind the 3.  
p3 3/2,3/5, saver 3/1/5
7th-The 5 is Pletcher/Johnny V and figures to dominate after winning the Laurel Futurity, short price but can squeeze more value out of the 3 in the 5th.  
11th-I like the #7.  Playing win & 7/3,6 DD. Depending on price, I could mix the 1 in with both exacta & DD savers.  
 
Fair Grounds:  
7th: p4 5/8/All/2
8th-#8 is one of 2 Cody Autrey claims in the race.  Speed # is better on this one & he goes to his main rider Theriot. p3s if no p4 going see 7th.
10th: I really like 15-1 #2 Makutus.  2nd time starter shipping in off sprint at CD.  Some excellent works since the race, stretches to 1 1/16 with favorable inside post.  Main foe is stuck all the way in 12 & may not even hit the board if he gets a rough trip.  
 
Turfway:
3rd-In a race where I\'m ignoring the sheet # (31.3) on my top selection, but using the sheets for the underneath horses, I\'m taking 8-1 ML #7 Flatter Me Rose.  Here\'s what he\'s got going for him (by the way DRF has him 30-1-drf odds are pretty messed up today).  Dropping from last place finish at $15,000 into $7,500 today.  Going from I. Diego (who is 5% at the Turfway meet-I couldn\'t find any stats on him-hasn\'t ridden this weekend when Turfway was in the form) to Pompell who has good stats with the trainer in limited data.  Has bullet workout on 12/26 following a solid 101.3 bg on 12/18-both after her 12/9 race. Had decent workouts before 1st race but went off 30-1 where they may have used the race to get the filly on track experience while racing her over her head.  Looking to hookup in some way with 4,9,13 in exactas & possibly other exotics.
Title: Re: Thanks for the free sheets
Post by: cubfan0316 on January 01, 2008, 11:16:29 AM
nice call on turfways 3rd. 110 dollar exacta and a 22 dollar winna.