NC Tony, where are you?
Carryover($1.45million) at Hollywood after three days of \"ridiculous\" cushion track chaotic results.They carried the players out again at KEE, now it\'s Hollywood\'s turn.
Mike
miff Wrote:
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> NC Tony, where are you?
>
> Carryover($1.45million) at Hollywood after three
> days of \"ridiculous\" cushion track chaotic
> results.They carried the players out again at KEE,
> now it\'s Hollywood\'s turn.
>
> Mike
http://www.drf.com/news/article/84259.html
\"In fact, the new material has provided the foundation for a virtual renaissance of Hollywood Park, which kicks off its 63-day spring-summer meet on Wednesday with renewed anticipation.\"
\"The main reason is a safe racing surface. Hollywood last year became the first track in California to install a synthetic surface, and the initial fall meet on Cushion Track was a smashing success, based on handle and reduced injuries. The meet averaged 8.4 starters per race.\"
\"There has never been this much demand for stall space,\" Panza said. \"It has to mean something. If it\'s anything like fall, it should be a good meet.\"
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\"In fact, the new material has provided the foundation for a virtual renaissance of Hollywood Park, which kicks off its 63-day spring-summer meet on Wednesday with renewed anticipation.\"
\"The main reason is a safe racing surface. Hollywood last year became the first track in California to install a synthetic surface, and the initial fall meet on Cushion Track was a smashing success, based on handle and reduced injuries. The meet averaged 8.4 starters per race.\"
\"There has never been this much demand for stall space,\" Panza said. \"It has to mean something. If it\'s anything like fall, it should be a good meet.\"
....and the players are going broke!!!
Miff,
No offence intended as I think you are one of the sharpest posters on the site but the players are still getting back around 85 cents on the dollar. Sarcasm aside, I know of several serious players that are having exceptional results on the synthetic surfaces. Especially the Keeneland meet.
Frank
Here my $32 ticket for today\'s Poly Pick 6:
Leg A: 3,7
Leg B: 8
Leg C: 5,13
Leg D: 3,8
Leg E: 3
Leg F: 1,16
A~ 1,3
B~ 6,8
C~ 3,12
D~ 1,2
E~ 1,4
F~ 1
good luck to anyone else playing.
A-1,3,7,8
B-6,8
C-3,11
D-1,3
E-4
F-9,16
Frank,
Of course the return is always the same (75-85%) of what is wagered.The problem with constant chaos is that the money is not flowing back to the 38% of the bettors that wager app 68% of the money. So if the 38% bettor population gets substantially hurt, it follows that eventually the pools get smaller. Natch this will take a long time and I would imagine they will get the surface more consistent with tweaking.
The flaw in this whole poly-mania thing is that they rushed into it before perfecting it and they never gave a second thought as to how it might affect their biggest customers.Racetrack managers are the poorest managers I have ever come across in my business life on many levels.Having said that,only GP showed negative growth figs but there were reasons.An NTRA industry observer attributes high employment and generally good wages for the overall growth.It appears that some of the discretionary money is ending up in the windows.Stay lucky!
Mike
Miff,
I was busy today working on the online contest. I\'ll need to pay more attention.
NC Tony
Mike,
Constant chaos? I don\'t see it. Handicapping the polycushionwhatever is no different than handicapping the many other surfaces in racing. I don\'t know where you get your numbers and it doesn\'t matter, but why would it hinder the 38% that bet the 68% and help the 62% that bet the 32%?
And if the average field size is higher as a result of polycushionwhatever I think pools will increase rather than shrink.
Thank you for the good luck wishes. The same right back at ya.
Frank
Frank,
I don\'t know one serious racetrack gambler, owner, trainer, jockey who thinks\"handicapping polycushion is no different from handicapping any other surface\".If you beating poly/cushion, keep it up, you are a minority.
Mike
I\'m not beating it and I\'m not sure where I said that in my post.
Jwmjr,
Did not know you are Frank to whom I was replying.
Mike
sorry mike, my mistake.
jim
Jim,
no problem, we all have derby fever.
Mike
Many of the batch wagers are computed,going back 10 yrs or more.
Now they stopped loading up on poly because of the uncertainty.
Batch wagering(for those purists)consists of getting a return of 98% or higher from previous races(1000\'s)and waiting til the buzzer and beyond to wager.
One might say we get a better shake w/out all the history....but first we need to tame the beast to some extent.And with all due respect ,not spend so much energy repining.