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Title: Art Sherman-conspiracy theory
Post by: davidrex on July 02, 2006, 06:20:24 PM
This is some good trainer.
Has Carthage and Siren Lure.
Claimed one for35k,the other for 50k.Not only are they winning machines,they also win the big ones.
And hes\' #2 trainer in N. California.
OK,so the only theory an East Coast guy like me can come with is hes\' using undetectable \"mazel\".
John T.,is he a blip on your radar screen? Anyone out west want to nail this bum?
Rumor has it,he married one of Dutrows\' daughters(the ugly one),and the virus has found a home on the left coast!(I\'m joking)
Title: Re: Art Sherman-conspiracy theory
Post by: flushedstraight on July 03, 2006, 06:51:41 AM
Siren Lure actually looks like a shrewd claim that\'s been well spotted;
prior to July2 never had to run faster than a 2 for those stakes wins, never had big new top (2.25 was max); and followed the expected pattern of development for a Joyeux Danseur from 3 to 4, especially considering dirt to turf... which leads me to...


a question for TG;

The Sire Profile for Joyeux Danseur shows the following TGIs;

dirt...... 18.25
off....... 19.75
turf...... 15.00

overall... 14.25

???
what am I missing?

thanks
Title: Re: Art Sherman-conspiracy theory
Post by: TGAB on July 03, 2006, 12:10:30 PM
The overall TGI can be nonintuitive at times. Consider the following sire profile TGI example--tops shown--d for dirt, t for turf:

Horse 1 3d, 1t
Horse 2 6d, 3t
Horse 3 3d, --
Horse 4 12d,7t
Horse 5 --, 9t

The dirt TGI is 3+6+3+12=24/4=6
The turf TGI is 1+3+7+9=20/4=5
The overall TGI is 1+3+3+7+9=23/5=4.6= a TG 4-1/2

In this case only 4 horses show up in the dirt and turf TGI but the overall TGI uses all five since it takes the top figure regardless of surface.  
Title: Re: Art Sherman-conspiracy theory
Post by: davidrex on July 03, 2006, 01:26:15 PM
Alan,
Can we conclude(loosely)that the overall # can be over looked?
It seems every horse I have a sheet for has the same skewer.
Title: Re: Art Sherman-conspiracy theory
Post by: flushedstraight on July 04, 2006, 08:54:46 AM
Alan
thanks, assumed the overall # was based on total starts

Rex, I\'m guessing the stat can be useful to breeders and owners and such