The race goes (roughly) 22/3 46 110/4 137/1 201/2; meaning the mile goes in 26/1 and the finish in 24/2! Barb runs 23 46/4 1 111/2 137 201/2 and BGC runs 23/1 47/1 111/3 137/4 202/4. Stepp and Jazil make their moves on the turn but it lokks like that move is only 3/8 instead of 4/8 which would have been needed.
I had plotted the race out with the same (roughly) splits to the 3/4 and the same final time, but I had the mile about 1 sec. (roughly) faster. Does this mean that the Barb was coasting on the far turn when most horses were struggling to make their moves, and then clicked into another gear? Pretty impressive, it shows he has reserves that most horses don\'t have. I liked him in Jan. when I saw that turf race and in the Derby, even with his rather average numbers for the field, he\'s going to be hard to beat. Am I missing something?
These splits look like a Turf race. This is why I call this a weird derby.
Looking at past derby\'s you usually had 4 to 6 horses trying to make a move on the turn, which would put more pressure on the 6 f to 1 mile split. Maybe they slowed down on the Turn and nobody challenged it. The jocks may have gotten away with something.
I am not ready to give Barbaro the Triple Crown yet, but I would like to see how some of these horses run back at another track before passing judgment on his super horse ability.
No. Most of the horses in the race ran terribly slow turn times. I think BD was about :28 and change.
My feeling here is that BARBARO\'s easy victory was as much do with no one having a turn move as it was that he is a great 3yo. BARBARO ran a normal turn time conserving energy while increasing his advantage which enabled him to spurt away again once they straightened out.
Yes, BARBARO is a fine horse. But I think he beat a bunch of ordinary 3yos. I wouldn\'t try to beat him in Baltimore with any of the same horses that ran in Kentucky.
While one may be tempted to try with BD or SNS, my feeling is that they may be both over the top with the # of low numbers they have achieved. SNS hasn\'t stopped racing since Christmas. BD threw in 3 zeros in a row after his December Hollywood Futurity and now comes back in 2 weeks after a 9 wide tour of the city of Louisville. No thank you.
I like DEPUTED TESTAMONY in the Preakness.
Good luck,
Joe B.
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> The race goes (roughly) 22/3 46 110/4 137/1 201/2;
> meaning the mile goes in 26/1 and the finish in
> 24/2! Barb runs 23 46/4 1 111/2 137 201/2 and BGC
> runs 23/1 47/1 111/3 137/4 202/4. Stepp and Jazil
> make their moves on the turn but it lokks like
> that move is only 3/8 instead of 4/8 which would
> have been needed.
>
> I had plotted the race out with the same (roughly)
> splits to the 3/4 and the same final time, but I
> had the mile about 1 sec. (roughly) faster. Does
> this mean that the Barb was coasting on the far
> turn when most horses were struggling to make
> their moves, and then clicked into another gear?
> Pretty impressive, it shows he has reserves that
> most horses don\'t have. I liked him in Jan. when
> I saw that turf race and in the Derby, even with
> his rather average numbers for the field, he\'s
> going to be hard to beat. Am I missing something?
Saw the BRIS figure today which has the Derby fast, but not a standout. And there might be a little more to that figure as well.
I guess we\'ll see in two weeks whether he was cruising or not.
Theres a couple horses that have back figures faster than the figure Barbaro earned in the Derby. Its a question now of whether Barbaro can repeat that Derby number. He may have to, because one of those is going in the Preakness.
It would be nice to have a triple crown winner, but it might be a lot nicer to beat an undefeated Barbaro in the Preakness at 4-5. Maybe even keep him out of the perfecta? The pace in the Preakness might be kinder to the leaders as well.