Most Likely winner -- Bob and John
Value Pick -- Private Vow
Winner-Bob and John
Board Crasher-Bluegrass Cat
Winner B & J
Long shot Flashy Bull
SNS to win.
AP Warrior to win
Point Determined to win. Box w/ AP Warrior.
Ap Warrior and/or steppenwolfer to win
Oaks / Derby Double 1x2 : Red Cherries Spin w / Storm Treasure , Keyed Entry
Win --------- Bob and John
Ex. Box ----- Bob and John/Pt. Determined/Barbaro
Tri Box ----- Bob and John/Pt. Determined/Barbaro/Stepenwolfer
Top pick: Point Determined
Best value: AP Warrior
SNS Win
AP Warrior Hit board at odds
Bro Derek wins
AP Warrior Second
Jazil Third
PD Fourth
Sweetnorthernsaint over Bob and John
Private Vow and Keyed Entry in the exotics.
Private Vow to Win
Brother Derek 2nd
Sinister Minister 3rd
SNS on top cold. Underneath I will use Bafferts three, Pletcher\'s two, Bro Derek, Lawyer Ron and Cause to Beleive to spice the tri and super...
SweetNorthernSaint
Barbaro
Point Determined
Lawyer Ron
Point Determined
Cause to Believe
Keyed Entry
Jazil
Straight Super
A.P. Warrior
Brother Derek
Barbaro
tri box...Brother Derek/SNS/Private WoW
Win Point Determined
Place AP Warrior
Show Steppenwolfer
4th Sinister Minister
1ST - Point Determined
2ND - Bob and John
3RD - Bluegrass Cat
4TH - Showing Up
Best of Luck,
Sweetnorthernsaint
with
Brother Derek
Barbaro
Point Determined
Ap Warrior
WIN - Bob And John
PLACE - Sweetnorthernsaint
SHOW - A P Warrior
Cause2Believe
Showing Up
Steppenwolfer
Point Determined
BROTHER DEREK w/SNS,Keyed Entry,Lawyer Ron w/same plus A.P.,P. Vow, ditto for 4th hole
Sweetnorthernsaint with
* Private Vow
* Point Determined
* Steppenwolfer
i will take sns with bob and john
If sin Min Pairs He wins- I Know everyone says he can\'t.
Sin Min to win- hedge Bet Super & exacta:
Sin Min/Barbaro/Sweet Nothern/Point D and inPos 1& Pos 2/ then add Deputy Glitter/BGCat/Storm Treasure/Showing Up in Pos 3&4 for a Super Ticket.
NC Tony
Point Determined
A.P. Warrior
Jazil
Bob & John
Played Ap Warrior and Bob and John on top of Steppenwolfer, Point Determined, Barbaro and SNS. 7,10 / 2,5,7,8,10, 11. bbb
That Southern Cal based horses look much the best here. Patterns are real healthy and I am not going to get suckered into SWEETNORTHERNSAINT, who ran a tremendous race last out, but #s achieved over HAW don't seem to get carried over elsewhere – I am well aware that WAR EMBLEM won the Ky Derby. I am going with POINT DETERMINED, BOB AND JOHN, AP WARRIOR, & BROTHER DEREK.
I like 2 horses. To my knowledge they are the two fastest horses per TGraph. That \"knowledge\" reinforces what I think of them and fortified me with courage to do what I did. There are many speed figures out there. But at this time of year the folks that do it best reside at this site. And I\'d be remiss in not mentioning the difficulty and challenge in accurately assigning figures to maturing, improving horses all coming in from different tracks. A monumental task. Once in a Blue Moon, I\'ve had disagreements here, but thats part of the inquiry. That said, I\'m following Tgraph this year and if these two horses don\'t run well, who will question the figures assigned to them by the host? Blasphemy!
Where to start. How did Baffert get a hold of Sinister Minister? Did he not show tremendous promise in that maiden win? Even if it was a maiden claimer. He ran a Tgraph 3 (Beyer 102) ran with the pace horses and buried them late. That told you something.
Secondly, That California Derby was not an optical illusion. Sinister for whatever reason collided with the rail, TWICE! That allowed Cause to Believe to win that race. No way Cause gets up without that nonsense. After being passed Sinister fought back and got back to approximately even momentum terms in my estimation. That tells me he wasn\'t simply tiring, which the Bluegrass makes moot anyway.
Thirdly, The Bluegrass was not an optical illusion. He buried them and he did it, believe it or not on the wrong lead. Thats right, he wrong lead buried them to death. He even broke in the air a step slow. I know its Keeneland but that race gives me goosebumps. Now, according to observers, he\'s learned to change leads. Its only his 6th race. He\'s still learning.
Fourth, observers say he absolutely destroyed the track in his last gallop. Decimated it. Took no prisoners. Threw down the gauntlet.
Fifth, I\'ve seen him work and I\'ve never seen a horse move like him. He has spider legs that stretch forever. His back end is a ballet. In the work I saw, he was crawling under restraint and then the jock let him go for just an instant and he launched, but he launched smoothly. That work, out goose bumped the Blue Grass.
Sixth, I think the track will really carry an honest front end horse today.
Maybe I\'m all wet, but I got the Gold Standard. I\'ve got the fastest Tgraph horse.
Beat him if you can!!!
SoS to save.
Chuckels, after all the negativity we\'ve posted on SM, Kudos to you for taking a stand. I still think he\'ll be lucky to make the top 10, but I was SURE you would jump off him.
Good luck
But how? Just on the lead and gone?
Blind Switch Wrote:
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> But how? Just on the lead and gone?
If he wins, its gonna have to be POOF he was gone.
I may be ok with an SoS win too. But the lions share is on Sinister.
Pat will not let SM get away. In fact, I think Keyed Entry inherits the lead and sticks around for a long long long long time. Pletcher and PVal! Keyed Entry on top, box\'em with the SNS and Brother D in the tri and add Private Vow to the super...They will still be waiting for a pace meltdown up front