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Title: Draw order for Derby
Post by: bellsbendboy on May 03, 2006, 09:49:10 AM
Put up a few minutes ago at www.thebloodhorse.com   AP Warrior goes first then Bob and John. Others Lawyer ron 15 and Brother derek 16. Sunriver does NOT draw in.  bbb
Title: Re: Draw order for Derby
Post by: flushedstraight on May 03, 2006, 09:56:24 AM
1. A.P. Warrior
2. Bob and John
3. Sharp and Humor
4. Barbaro
5. Showing Up
6. Point Determined
7. Deputy Glitters
8. Private Vow
9. Bluegrass Cat
10. Steppenwolfer
11. Sinister Minister
12. Seaside Retreat
13. Sweetnorthernsaint
14. Cause to Believe
15. Lawyer Ron
16. Brother Derek
17. Storm Treasure
18. Flashy Bull
19. Keyed Entry
20. Jazil
Title: Re: Draw order for Derby
Post by: kev on May 03, 2006, 10:24:34 AM
Good maybe LR and BD will draw the far outside. I think the speed horses will be the only ones hurt by outside post-draws. I don\'t think the trainers want post 1 or 2 for their speed horses either.
Title: Re: Draw order for Derby
Post by: jbelfior on May 03, 2006, 11:43:12 AM
First to pick and first under the wire.



Good Luck,
joe B.
Title: Re: Draw order for Derby
Post by: P-Dub on May 03, 2006, 02:51:52 PM
Its a long run to the first turn. I don\'t think outside is as bad as a lot of people think.  Better than being jammed down inside, avoiding heels and horses bumping you around.
Title: Re: Draw order for Derby
Post by: kev on May 03, 2006, 03:20:42 PM
I think it\'s bad for LR and BD now there\'s about 5 other speed horses to the inside, they either stay with them and go wide or they drop in behind, meaning they will be off the pace where BD won\'t like it.
Title: Re: Draw order for Derby
Post by: Uncle Buck on May 03, 2006, 04:18:24 PM
jbelfior Wrote:
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> First to pick and first under the wire.
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> Good Luck,
> joe B.


Really Joe? You think he\'ll be first under the wire? Is this the same AP Warrior that ran a DREADFUL 4th to Cuase to Beleive in the El Camino Real? I can\'t see this one winning...But I don\'t know a whole lot either.

If you like AP at 15-1 don\'t you have to LOVE CTB at 50-1 and likely to drift up from there? CTB could be the Closing Argument of this year\'s Derby...

Food for Thought I suppose...
Title: Re: Draw order for Derby
Post by: jbelfior on May 04, 2006, 01:27:41 PM
Uncle Buck----


Derbies are not won or lost in January. I just think he\'s ready to run the race of his life which he will have to do to win it. I\'ll take my chances that he can and will at 15-1.



Good Luck,
Joe B.