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Title: The horse I wanted to bet in Derby pool 1 didn't make top 23
Post by: toppled on January 26, 2006, 03:24:12 PM
I was going to bet on Superfly.  Here\'s why-5th in Breeder\'s Cup, bred for the distance, ran a 2 in a sprint & a 4.2 in Breeder\'s Cup with potential for good forward movement as a 3 yo. 3rd in Champaigne to 2 horses with holes in them as 3yos going 1.25 miles.  Full brother to stakes winning Andromeda\'s Hero, trained by a Derby winning trainer -Zito.  I was expecting at least 30-1 and perhaps a lot better.

Instead the field is filled with Johnny come latelies like Itsallbouthechase, who ran 2nd in a minor stake at GP and wouldn\'t have been found with a telescope if he met the likes that Superfly ran 5th to in the Breeders Cup.  

So, I\'ll be sitting out pool 1 and if Superfly makes it into pool 2, chances are it will be because of a good performance, so he\'ll be an underlay.  Thanks a lot, panel!
Title: Re: The horse I wanted to bet in Derby pool 1 didn't make top 23
Post by: dutrowfan on January 27, 2006, 06:16:13 AM
Interesting take on Superfly.  The kentcuky Oaks odds are up and I feel that there may be substanially more value in that pool than in the Derby Pool.  here\'s why, Folklore is a huge favorite right now and her debut this year was less than stellar.  I have always had doubts about her ability to go a mile and an eight also and because she will be prepping in Southern Cal with its dreadful concrete surfaces that break horses down, I would say its even money that she doesn\'t even make the race.  Outside of Folklore and the field noone else is less than 16-1.  May be some real value there.
Title: Re: The horse I wanted Derby pool--Vegas Baby!
Post by: Kasept on January 27, 2006, 06:54:14 AM
Toppled..

You can your 30-1 on Superfly this minute at Bally\'s.. He\'s 20-1 at Wynn.

Today and tomorrow are days to get some Vegas Future Bets in as there are a host of Derby Trailers making starts in ALWs, the El Camino and Pasco this weekend: Music School (50-1), Wanna Runner (150-1!), R Loyal Man (60-1), etc..