I used both to handicap the 1st 9 races on Sat\'s card & made 3 serious bets. Realizing that it\'s opinion to a certain extent, but trying to be as objective as possible, this is how I saw it:
1. Draw. Bel B looked about the same on both.
2. Draw. Winner was not a sheets play, although I noticed that Rags did not pick up on the fact that Brightest Ice was gelded between races. I wish I hadn\'t either.
3. Clear Advantage TG. 34-1 Sherpa Guide showed a fwd moving line with competitive nos on TG & was an 0-2 which looked too slw on Rags.
4. Draw. Too Scarlet was slower on Rags but was playable on both.
5. Draw. 29-1 Judge Case was playable on both.
6. Draw. 2-1 Explicit was not a great play on either, depending on how you viewed his last race.
7. Draw. Babae was a very strong play on both, particularly at 3-1. 2n place finisher Tates Creek looked better on TG but did not make sense at the price IMHO.
8. Draw. This one is tricky because it depends on how much blind faith you have in the bounce theory as it applies to a race like this. I have very little & I thought Gygistar was a stickout at 4-1 on both, given that YG looked like a toss on both. However, Gyg looked less likely to bounce on Rags.
9. Clear Advantage TG. BH looked like a stickout on TG, even at the low odds, while (as Tabi pted out) Rags had him regressing in his last, a G1 win. Hap looked best on Rags. Both had 7 yr old WA as a strong bounce candidate, putting the kabosh on my latest exception involving a particular 7 yr old trained by a Hall of Famer who hasn\'t bounced despite many sheet players\' predictions over a 2 yr period.
When I did this at Kee for 75 races it seemed a lot easier & less time consuming & the differences were a lot more dramatic. While I still think an extended trial would be worthwhile, it\'s going to be a lot more difficult than I originally thought.
though many
Mall:
I\'m really not sure if true comparisons can ever be made. While looking at the winners or runner-ups, you can say which one looked better on either sheet, but would that have been the original wager to begin with? The contest had divergent opinions looking at the same sheets from either camp. I guess you have to start somewhere, LOL.
\"8. Draw. This one is tricky because it depends on how much blind faith you have in the bounce theory as it applies to a race like this. I have very little & I thought Gygistar was a stickout at 4-1 on both, given that YG looked like a toss on both. However, Gyg looked less likely to bounce on Rags.\"
wasn\'t that the race I cashed a 2 horse exacta box paying $115(?), using Sheets, while you busted out half your bankroll, using TG?
There must have been some difference on Draw Play. HP
Let\'s see. You\'ve proved that you\'re not a man of your word, that you don\'t have enough confidence in your handicapping under any circumstances to bet real money, that your inane contest boasts were a fraud(thanks to Seattle Slew), that you\'re a sore loser, that you\'re incapable of uttering a coherent thought relating to handicapping, that you\'re a Raggie with an agenda, and that you\'re petty and immature. In light of your recent post claiming you are interested in a hadicapping thread, liar can be added to the list. Exacta Dave? You\'ve hit at least a pick 8, and I feel pretty confident that you\'ll find a way to add quite a bit to the total before it\'s all over. Too bad there isn\'t some way to bet on the possibility that you will continue to disgrace yourself if JB continues to let you.
I think somebody needs a nappy.....
You really should have rented the Mr T video I recommended Raggie Dave. It might have helped you understand where you went wrong & how you can start the long road back to recovery. Remarkably, you don\'t even understand that you & your posts were & are being used to illustrate the lengths & depths to which some people are willing to go to try to inflict damage on another\'s business.
it\'s a shame when a man can\'t even steal another man\'s business and enjoy it in peace....
ps
--- I forgot to ask about this:
\"I used both to handicap the 1st 9 races on Sat\'s card & made 3 serious bets\"
I was wondering --- did those bets do better than your prerace contest bets?
Much better Raggie Dave, in the only contest in this game that counts. You know, it\'s the one you\'re afraid of entering.
You\'re certainly running true to form today Raggie Dave. In the space of an hr or so, you\'ve managed to call JB a liar, a thief & a fraud, & were still able to \"select\" a horse running in foal to win a major stakes. At least the other attack dogs have an economic incentive, while you have nothing but your $1 tri boxes on youbet.com
JB can address your neverending & baseless accusations Raggie Dave, but since we\'re asking questions, I wonder if you saw the laudatory article on Dick Powell\'s handicapping on Brisnet today. Contrast that with you calling him a \"mope\" who hit the lottery, & ask yourself how that reflects on what kind of person you are.
\"I used both (Sheets and TG) to handicap the 1st 9 races on Sat\'s card & made 3 serious bets. Realizing that it\'s opinion to a certain extent, but trying to be as objective as possible, this is how I saw it:\"
now, since this was posted AFTER the races had been run, I asked:
\"did those bets do better than your prerace contest bets?\"
your witty (and drunken) reply:
\"Much better Raggie Dave, in the only contest in this game that counts. \"
(I imagine your speech being slurred when I read that)
so I must ask, can I infer from this that the \'only contest in this game that counts\' is the imaginary contest inside your head where you\'re a legendary handicapper who cashes tickets and picks horses that run?
because, ordinarily we can\'t bet on yesterday\'s races in the real world.
Mall, I\'m going to recommend you take a deep breath and let this go. This guy\'s not even playing favorably with the Raggie\'s, and I\'ll continue to take care of him on the only stuff that matters.
Not only has soup already served his purpose, but his diatribes & snide remarks have become boring. I don\'t think I\'m going to far out on a limb when I say that Nunzio, Seattle Slew, HP, Alydar, myself & many, many others are simply sick & tired of his act. If the purpose of the new Bd was to weed out the lunatic fringe so that contributors could have a meaningful debate re serious handicapping issues, I can\'t think of a better candidate for capital punishment than Raggie Dave. Off with his head I say!
Seattle Slew\'s post was great. Almost as good as bj\'s posts were. Supe serves a purpose. I\'m ready to issue an IQ challenge, and maybe there should be a test that goes along with the registration process for the bulletin board. HP
I wonder if Spain\'s offspring will have to go through detox ,I fear it will be chemically dependant
first, it\'s we WANT you to post.
then, it\'s we DON\'T want you to post.
then, it\'s \'we\'re going to have fun!\'
then, it\'s some other bs.
you dudes don\'t know if you\'re comin\' or goin\'.
first, you\'re cryin\' about deletion @ Sheets.
then, you\'re cryin\' to jerry for deletion........................
ps -- mall
don\'t be so sensitive.
I\'ll go easier on you from now on --- jerry doesn\'t have to ban me.
or are you just worried about getting spanked again in the next contest.....?
Dave, you must be incredibly vain if you think anyone gives a rat\'s ass if you post or not. HP
just goin\' by what I read.
Then you should fire whoever is helping you read it. HP
Factoid Man! You\'re back! Just so we\'re clear--I want you to stay, and if you didn\'t have a few screws loose you would know how much good you\'ve done me already. The other guys are reacting because you are incredibly unpleasant, but that\'s one of the reasons I want you here. I know you want me to bar you (get to leave and save face) but I\'m not done with you.
good --- now it\'s on the record.
this is jerry\'s board, so the rest of you whiners can shut the hell up.
Now, now--weather a little hot where you are? Just so it\'s as clear to you as it is to everyone else, when I talk to you I\'m not really talking to you, I\'m using you to make points to everyone else--one big one (what Raggies are like), and lots of other ones concerning specifics. If you were smarter and less consumed by rage you would know how you\'re playing, but then you wouldn\'t be you, or have done any of this to begin with, would you?
???
you are one weird dude.