Bit-- I assume the reference to Ms. Ross went to my earlier proclamation here of undying love (to say nothing of lust), and if anyone wants to see the perfect woman (at least to a guy from ages 18 to about 30), check out the scene with her, Newman, and the bicycle in Butch Cassidy. But the scene between Branagh and Thompson in Hank V is great (\"We are the makers of fashion\", and \"Take me, take a soldier. Take a soldier, take a King\"). Goldman is good, but no Willy Shake. And Branagh and Thompson should really get back together, so they can have careers again.
Don\'t know whether this is true, but I\'ve been told that some of the earlier film version of the play, starring Olivier, was censored (!!!-- this is Shakespeare we\'re talking about). It came out during or right after WWII, and some of the things Henry says in an earlier speech to get those under siege in a castle to give it up sounded too much like Nazi atrocities-- we\'ll crush your babies skulls, put them on spits, etc. Which brings us to Richard the \"Lion Hearted\"-- but that\'s another story.
Still grinning about LF as Falstaff. And Alydar/JJ has a little Hotspur in him...
SoCal-- Confusing is right, and not a further peep of explanation out of Jake. I have no idea what to make of it, or who actually should get credit for the claim, except I would take with a grain of salt any claims of \"sheet connection\" in the future. The problem Ragozin had in California (which LF does) back in 03 had to do with having 1 turn races too fast, relative to routes, and that wouldn\'t hurt them with this one. When I last looked it seemed they had made changes to fix the problem, which LF denied ever having.
CH and Bull-- Friedman and I were very good friends, and went to the track together hundreds of times. He was a very good guy (although a guy who worked for Ragozin for 25 years, since retired, vehemently disagrees with this). When I set up shop in 82, everything changed, and I became the devil. You guys only see what takes place publicly on the two boards, where I can refute allegations, but there was a 15 year stretch before that where some truly unconscionable stuff was directed my way on a daily basis in the field, and as I expressly said when we began this board, one of my aims was to get that stuff out in the open, where I could fight it. It worked-- the down side is that this place at times is a combat zone, but you almost never hear the kind of crap about us now that you saw on a regular basis just a few years ago.
Regarding making up-- a few years ago (I think 99), Len and I met in Union Square Park to discuss some kind of deal between the two companies (think Beckett and Henry II meeting on the plain). The first words out of Len\'s mouth were that he didn\'t know if they wanted to do a deal with someone of my \"moral character\". I calmy (really) asked him to provide me with an example of that character, and he brought up an incident from 1978 when, in Ragozin\'s office, I charged him a commission for advising on the claim of a horse he had an interest in, rather than giving him a freebie as a friend.
Then, about half an hour later, I informed him that an employee of theirs (Charlie Nebel, one of the ones we later caught on tape) was lying about us, in this case to the producer of the ABC Triple Crown telecasts, saying that we didn\'t use observers-- that we faked our ground. Len laughed, and said he believed it, Charlie didn\'t like me. I asked him if he would do something about it, and he said no, he had no interest.
So no, I don\'t think there will be kissing and making up any time soon.
Thanks for shedding some light on this, though you do not owe me or anyone else an explanation for your relationships. Your life is your life. As I said before, I did not know the whole story, and I am not trying to tell you how to live. You cleared it up nicely for me though, thank you.
Overlays to all and to all a good night!!!
-Bull
I\'m with everyone else in saying it\'s none of my business etc...
If I had to guess I would say that when you started TG he was probably hurt that you didn\'t ask him to be partners (assuming that\'s the case and assuming you guys were really close).
If you did ask him and/or discuss it he probably felt that your business was going to become a threat to his own livelihod and was upset that you put business before friendship.
No judgement here. Just trying to understand the response.
LF wouldn\'t have left Ragozin, ever-- he thought that Len invented speed figures, and that no one else would ever be able to make ones as good, let alone an irresponsible young street kid he was going to the track with who had little formal education (worth noting that Ragozin, Beyer and Crist all went to Harvard). My nickname back in those days was \"The Kid\", and then Cauthen came along, and that was the end of that. LF was \"Sneakers\", because he always wore canvas tennis shoes, and his wardrobe went downhill from there.
\'Sneakers\' used to whip a wad of cash out of his pocket to bet that would choke a , well, you know.
Those were the days when a sheet horse may have been 10-1, even better, and he\'d load up on exacta combinations at the $20 Exacta window.
He dressed down, but he could have easily bought a Mercedes for cash with the daily bankroll.
Apologies to everybody about what is obviously redboarding.
Also, no offense, Jerry, but maybe you are wrong about the sprint and route issue in California.
If you look at the Musique Toujours Sheet they posted on the Ragozin site today, MT does NOT look like a logical claim off Ragozin sheets while he did look logical on Thorograph. I am thinking the different treatment of routes and sprints could be the issue (and maybe instead of getting sprints too fast, they were getting routes too slow). I also find it very hard to believe that somebody counseled claiming Musique Toujours off the Ragozin sheet he had on the date he was claimed. Remember, you have to assume that you can only look at the figures before November 1 (obviously, nobody could have know the figure he would run the day he was claimed when they were making the decision to claim).
It is pretty interesting how different the sheets are. (one should look at both the Ragozin Sheet and the Thorograph sheet to follow this discussion).
At the start of the horse\'s career, while he was sprinting, you had the horse 5 points slower than Ragozin (and, remember, usually your numbers are faster than Ragozin\'s). Maybe this is Ragozin (or LF) making sprints too fast. Then, when the horse starts routing, your figs are faster than Ragozin\'s (either things are normal -- or perhaps his routes are too slow?). In a lot of cases the difference is as much as 5 points faster.
What is really significant to me is, off Ragozin, he was a horse that had an 11 top (three months before the claim), but the race before he was claimed was only a 12.5 -- a point and a half off his top. This is not necessarily so healthy under the pattern reading school based on small differences which counsels being suspicious of a young lightly raced horse having so much trouble getting back to a top -- it looks like the \'11\' on August 20 really took it out of him (On the contrary, you had him following up his Aug 20 top with another forward move on Aug 31).
Based on Friedman-type pattern reads, why claim this horse off this pattern on November 20? Why decide to claim him then? On August 31 (three months earlier), off Ragozin, the horse was coming off his top (the 11 on Aug 20) and his pattern looked much better AND you could have claimed him for only 32k. Why wait 3 months, get a worse pattern, no improvement, and pay an extra 8 large for the horse? Doesn\'t seem too logical to me.
On your sheets, the horse looked much healthier. You had him making and pairing tops much more frequently (compare the July 20 figures and the August 31 figures between the two sheet makers). Most significantly, on October 31 (the race before Glassman claimed him), you had him making a big significant top with a trouble mark to boot -- this was a real good indication that he was moving forward. On that same race, Ragozin was giving him a figure slower than his top without any excuse either (and again, this was the horse\'s first two turn race at Santa Anita, maybe Ragozin/LF was making those too slow?). To me, admittedly looking back, he looked like a live horse on Thorograph while on Ragozin, I wonder why anybody would have decided to claim him.
I really wonder who was behind the claim (and what product he or she was using when the decision was made). And, if it was a she, I want to meet her!
SoCal-- I don\'t know who really was behind the claim or why they took him, but I have to say that is one sophisticated analysis, especially for a civilian. Anyone who wants to follow along can see the Ragozin sheets for the whole race with the numbers they ran, posted on their site. Our sheets are attached.
I\'m leaving soon, but I may get into this further tomorrow. Nice job.
http://www.thorograph.com/hold/musique.pdf
If you go to the GP site, in the news & events section, Richard Glassman, who is out of work & trying to become an LA cop, explains why he made the decision to claim the horse. Sheets had nothing whatsoever to do with it. As you will see, Glassman did not even talk to Sadler after he made his decision, but instead called the asst trainer, Larry Benabidez. He did, however, talk to Sadler before the GP race & was told that his horse didn\'t have a chance. So, the \"connection\" in this case exists because the guy who made the decision on his own called someone who was an asst to a trainer who has used or is using sheets in some unknown fashion & who thought the horse didn\'t belong in the race. Good thing the out of work guy didn\'t listen to the guy who provided the sheets with the \"connection\" they are hanging their hat on. It would have cost him, as you put it, 600 large. As Marc pointed out, you shouldn\'t believe all the crazy claims suppliers make after a tournament(or a $1 million stakes race). Especially, I would add, claims that insult your intelligence.
TGJB --
I will accept the backhanded compliment -- just remember, you pros need us civilian rank amateurs around so you have somebody to win off of! Since this is the site that has already had me explaining that I am no Ethel Mertz, this must be progress. Much warmer than your reception of me that last time I pointed out a superior aspect of your product over the competitor.
Mall -- I could not find the piece on Glassman you refer to. Can you put a link here? I know for sure the guy has had other horses -- and with trainers other than Sadler/Benabidez. For all we know, he may be a lot more sophisticated than meets the eye. Saying the guy is out of work and trying to become an LA Cop is probably true, but also probably not the complete story. I read somewhere that he made money in the car business and retired. I can\'t imagine out of work guys trying to pick up a job that pays less than 50 a year are maintaining a string of horses unless they have other means. I suspect he is looking to become a cop for reasons other than the financial remuneration. This board seems to have a lot of people who know people in the business -- maybe somebody out there can shed more light on this?
I will be absent from this board for a while, so silence from me does not mean anything over the next 4 days or so other than the fact that I do not carry my Thorograph bulletin board password around with me when I travel.
There is a lot more to the story. My idea was to not give it away entirely, but provide enough to get people interested enough to read it themselves. Although Mr Glassman is said to be \"retired\" from the car business, the fact that he could not come up with his half of the entry fees leads me to believe that he may not be trying to become a police officer for the fun of it. Also, I did not mean to suggest, nor do I believe, that he is unsophisticated. If anything, this score would seem to suggest just the opposite. For reasons unknown, sometimes this works, & other times it doesn\'t, but here goes:
http://www.gulfstreampark.com/NewsEvents/SunshineMillions/Details/Classic.htm.
Now you have to tell me something when you get back. I know who she is, but never watched the show & don\'t get the reference to Ethel Mertz. I have seen the ubiquitous assembly line at the chocolate factory scene, but can\'t imagine how it could possibly apply in these circumstances. What do you mean by it?
If Patriots head coach Bill Belichick has ever bought a set of SHEETS, can Jake and Eric take credit for winning The Super Bowl, assuming of course New England wins the game.
James Michelson, Jr. mentions his use of Thoro-Graph in the Youbet Newsletter.
http://www.youbet.com/newsletter/jmichelson.html
xichibanx
SoCal-- I didn\'t call you an amateur, and I would certainly never call you rank. When I snapped at you the other time, I thought you were someone else. Not the Mertz guy.
In broad terms, you and Mall are in the same business, and have a similar style. Has anyone ever seen you two at the same time?
Sign in when you get back to the not-quite-as-evil-as-it-was empire. And listen-- do you want to take a shot at doing a ROTW some time? In fact, I\'ll make that offer to Derby 1592 as well. Chris?
Mall-- You might try the site search engine for Ethel Mertz. Beyond that, I can\'t help you with this one, so you might have to wait until SoCal is (insert Beatles title here), you don\'t know how lucky you are.
You\'re link is dead Mall. I\'ll find it myself. I know how to Google.
I have to echo your recent sentiments. This board, though always good, has never been better.
SoCal2 and Derby, I for one would love to see your ROTW calls. TGJB has chosen wisely, as Kung Fu\'s mentor said to him. Now, when you can walk the length of rice paper, as delicate as dragonflywings
SoCal2, I really appreciated that Claim analysis. Very professional. I didn\'t refer to the Sheets in what I had to say about it, because I knew better, but in doing so you broke the Ragozin Crime Family.
CtC
At least it worked for me. When you get there you need to click on the 2nd item down, \"Ocala Breeders Classic Recap.\"
http://www.gulfstreampark.com/NewsEvents/SunshineMillions/
Based on the emails I received, you were one of the few who couldn\'t find it, but no matter, as maybe you know the whereabouts of one Phillip Baille, whose brother & sister took out an ad in today\'s drf to try to reach him re their parents\' 50th anniversary party in a few weeks. It\'s a good idea to peruse the ads every so often. You never know who might be trying to get in touch.
Mall this link worked for me. Thanx
I\'m surmising you\'re looking for your brother. Best of Luck
CtC
To TGJB: I will probably end up regretting this but I am stupid enough to give the ROTW a shot (if I can pick the race).
Just let me know how and when you want me to humble myself.
Chris
I have no idea what ya\'ll are talking about. Wanted some input on RHT vs. Phipps horse in Strub. Thank you.
Post Edited (02-04-05 23:57)
Dear Mall,
The Ethel Mertz line on this board came about the following way (my memory may be off on a few details).
1) I posted on this board noting that there were some unusual discrepancies between the figures of the two companies for the BC Cup races (particularly, the sprint and the distaff).
2) My post was met with a little bit of suspicion here and people were speculating as to who I might be.
3) In one of the post\'s, somebody asked if I was somebody named Marc.
4) I said I was not Marc (not knowing who Marc is or was).
5) On the other board, a person congratulated this Marc suggesting that he should be proud that I went out of my way to say I was not him and suggested that my disassociation was loaded with some meaning of one sort or another.
6) On this board, I responded that my denial of being Marc had nothing to do with Marc whoever that might be (and I am still unsure who this Marc is, but I do have a question later on regarding this). I explained that the genius on the other board high fiving with his co-horts had neglected to read my entire post. Finally, to illustrate my point that I was not saying anything about this Marc who I did not know, I pointed out could also say I am not Ethel Mertz and it would be incorrect to draw any meaning regarding Ethel Mertz from such a denial.
7) I resurrected Ethel Mertz here because I thought it was funny and was playing with TGJB about saying I was a civilian (which Ethel Mertz would also presumeably be if she were alive and participating in these discussions).
That is the Ethel Mertz-on-the-sheetplaying-public-bulletin-board story.
Now, I have a question for all the people who play inside baseball here. Is the Marc I was accused of being the same Marc that had an episode with TGJB regarding people coming out of the woodwork and claiming credit for other people\'s triumphs with scant basis? Recall, that Marc was congratulated by all the TGJB bashers for really rattling TGJB. If it is the same guy, I wonder if this Marc can read sheets and thinks that Musique Toujuors was a good claim (AT THE TIME THE CLAIM DECISION WAS MADE) off the Ragozin Sheets. If this Marc is the guy who accuses people of jumping on bandwagons with little fair basis, then maybe he can explain why Musique Toujuours would not fit in this same category with the Ragozin Sheets claiming credit for the claim. This is especially the case in light of the statements in various publications suggesting that people other than the alleged Sheet customer were responsible for the claim. I have nothing against Ragozin, and I use their product. I just think that for some reason, people give Ragozin a bye and jump all over TGJB unfairly.
Also, I seem to recall somebody over on the other board asking me to point out areas where the two sheets come out differently. I think that looking at MT as a claim on November 20, 2003 is one very good example of where they really point in different directions. (And both of these sheets are available for free on the internet now). I will look for others and try to give one ahead of time before a race.
TGJB
Although the not-quite-as-evil-as-it-was-empire is in fact that, it is still pretty evil (they are just more aligned with us now). In any event, I did fly in this morning (not on BOAC and fortunately without a paper bag on my knee). Ironically, that song is the favorite song of President Putin (when Paul McCartney had his Red Square concert in May 2003, McCartney opened with the song. Putin arrived mid-concert. As his encore, McCartney announced that he was doing a special request for a special audience member -- he then launched back into that opening number. The irony here is overwhelming.)
Since I do not know who Mall is, it is hard to say whether we have been at the same place at the same time. Chances are we were at some historic race at the same time. Mall, were you at the Affirmed-Alydar Preakness? One of the things that stick out in my mind from that day was actually a race on the undercard. There was a horse called Aborigine I think. He ran quite an impressive race that day -- to this day, the most electrifying move I have ever seen live in a horserace. Anyway, I will make this offer to Mall and any other Sheet players out there (Ragozin or Thorograph) -- if you are in town (Moscow, Russia that is) and want to catch the few American Races available to bet here in town, beers are on me.
TGJB, I am honored by your offer and accept. The only thing is, that sometimes my work can get a bit harried so we will need to work out a week that is manageable with my other workload.
First off, SoCalMan2d you convinced me that you really are in the land of Onion Tops and Sables. But, I\'m pretty naive. The \"beers in Moscow\" part shakes me. I thought potato juice was the drink of choice there.
Regarding songs, that one has to rank very highly with the very best those lads ever did. It helped get them on the F.B.I.\'s list of suspected subversives. I\'m probably a bit more partial to \"Come Together\", \"Get Back\" and \"I am the Walrus\", but then I\'m more of a Stones fan.
Regarding you\'re occasional use of \"Sheets\", I have to ask, \"Why do you do that\"? Is it an availability issue? TGraph is wired. You presented a flawless numbers based analysis into the merits of a claimed horse. On your analysis you can plainly see the Sheet figures not only made no sense for the claim, they also stand contradictory to the overall pattern of improvement that landed Toujours the big slice in the Sun Millions Classic.
Lastly Great Nicks are borne of happenstance not planning. I don\'t see much planning in \"SoCalMan2\", (especially with a Moscow domicile, the bona fides of which become more tenuous with every sentence I write), regardless, what I want to suggest on this topic is \"Ethel Mertz\". Never in the history of TFig board posting has a nickname screamed out so vociferously to be borne. You have great standing here as \"SoCalMan2\", but as \"Ethel Mertz\" you could become legendary.
The original SoCalMan was the issue you see. You\'ve sold me on a separate identity upon your greater acumen and writing style. Your namesake couldn\'t think, but he was all over sounding smooth. Form over Substance you know. I haven\'t completely ruled out an eccentric ploy, but a horse at 70-1 is not a good bet if hes only got a 1% chance of winning. (Exotics excluded)
CtC
Post Edited (02-08-05 12:47)
SoCal-- no, you are neither Mertz nor Marc, still not sure about Mall. Marc is Marc Attenberg, DRF employee (he runs their website), Ragozin acolyte, poster on several websites, and unremitting hypocrite (at best). Yes, if he wasn\'t full of crap he would have called the Ragozin office publicly on the MT business, for doing exactly what he was pretending to complain about.
So your thought process went, \"Civilian, hmmm... Ethel Mertz\". Is your real name Salvador Dali?
I thought about it, and I\'ve seen you at Saratoga, and Mall at Saratoga, but not at the same time, so I\'m still not sure. Maybe we can work that out for this year.
When you get time e-mail me about which week might work for doing ROTW-- we\'re also going to let Chris do one (Chris, I\'ll be getting to you later today about maybe doing it this week). Alan is very excited about the prospect of a week where he doesn\'t have to dodge pies.
I had drinks with some Aborigines once, but I don\'t remember the horse. That might be because of how vividly I remember the big race, no doubt because my seats were located near where Alydar briefly took the lead & I almost had a heart attack. You see, I was a student at the time, & on the 5 hr drive down I got the bright idea to book all of my classmates\' bets on Alydar.
If you haven\'t already, you might want to pick up a copy of Wink, which is about the jockey the NYRA named a MLK day stake after this year. He rode & won all of the big races in Moscow, where he was know as the \"black maestro\", & was forced by the Bolshevik army to make an 1100 mile march to Poland with 200 thoroughbreds.
I\'m already looking forward to your rotw. If you\'re amenable, authorize JB to share your email address with me, as there\'s something I can\'t mention here that I think you might be interested in.
1100 miles, huh. Michael D is right-- they don\'t breed them to go long any more.
hahahah.....good one.
give us the heads up if chris does the ROTW
It\'s his this week if he wants it. He can say anything he wants, as long as I agree with it. Sort of like Joe Lieberman\'s (and Falwell etc.) position on the First Amendment.
Very funny indeed. The Jimmy Winkfield story would be interesting to anyone who follows jockeys, but what you might find even more interesting are some stats from a Black History month tribute to his predecessor, Isaac Murphy. He won the 1st race he was in at age 14, three Ky Derbies, & over the 15 seasons he rode he won, gasp, 44% of his races. No roi info provided, but you have to believe that a super-jockey like that had a pretty strong following among the bettors.
What I\'ve been wanting to ask you about is the real inside skinny with Bailey. I read about but didn\'t hear the Super Bowl week interview promoting the book, so I obviously can\'t say whether he was hinting that he would retire after the TC. At the same time, the fact that he wrote a book & was doing interviews has to mean something. In run of the mill races, it sure doesn\'t seem like he\'s getting the mounts he used to get from a lot of different outfits, & I have an idea, a wag actually, that he & his agent may have already told his good clients his end date. Make sense?
It\'s his this week if he wants it. He can say anything he wants, as long as I agree with it. Sort of like Joe Lieberman\'s (and Falwell etc.) position on the First Amendment.
TGJB
lol
Post Edited (02-08-05 19:52)
Mall
Well, that confirms we were both at Pimlico on the third Saturday of May 1978! Jerry, if you were there, you could have seen us both at the same time. Besides Aborigine\'s electrfying move to seize that race on the undercard, I recall it being brutally hot. By the time the Affirmed-Alydar race came up, I was completely wiped. This making me feel all nostalgic. Those were the last days when betting tickets were those different colorful rolls that went through a special punch system. Windows were denominated by the size and type of ticket they could sell. I am sure they would never do it, but I would LOVE it if a track decided to do the racing equivalent of baseballs \"back to the 70s uniforms\" and decided to have a few of those machines on the big days for people who liked them.
I have heard about the Wink story but have not read the book. FYI, I live and work walking distance from the Moscow Hippodrome. The racing here is absolutely awful. And, this is even after racing has gone through a huge resurgence because it is one of President Putin\'s favorite pastimes. To give you a sample, the best stallion to ever stand in Russia was Leo Castelli. It would be interesting to see the TGI Sire stats on old Leo. I bet they are pretty pathetic.
CTC,
beer (in Russian \"pivo\") is very popular here, and, believe it or not, the Russian varieties are not bad. Vodka is still the drink of choice here, but it defeats me. Also, we call them onion domes, not onion tops.
FYI, I am also a big stones fan. The only problem is that their reference to Russia is in SFTD and the reference is to St. Petersburg not Moscow. Not a bad song though (with some pretty amazing lines). I have always wondered if Mick is a racing fan. There are some references to races in some obscure stones songs (Dead Flowers comes to mind off the top of my head); plus if \"Your so Vain\" is written about him, well, his horse naturally won!
As to why I still use Ragozin, I am an information maniac and like to get as much as possible. I like to handicap races multiple times if I can. There are times where there are discrepancies between the two sheet makers, and sometimes this discrepancy works out in favor of the Ragozin sheet. Quite frankly, I am looking for an edge that is not obvious to the crowd. If I find a nice priced horse that I can find a good reason to bet, then great. Using two sets of sheets gives me two different opportunities to find such a horse. Also, I really like to be able to throw out favorites (or, occasionally, if I think they are unbeatable, I am willing to single them on top in the Super if I can fill out the ticket with some nice prices underneath). With two sets of sheets, if they do not agree a tough favorite is unbeatable, then I have more of a reason to throw out such a favorite (although it is far better if both sheets agree the horse is dead). If both sheets agree a favorite is tough, then I need to look if I can find some value in a super (unless of course there is good enough value in the win pool).
Also, (and I think Jerry would probably agree with me on the following) if you put aside issues of whether somebody has blown the ground or the beaten lengths or something like that, a key thing we are looking to figure makers for is the variant they embed in their numbers. I think Jerry will agree that sometimes making a variant is a very tough call and there is no easy answer with what to come up with. Sometimes he may get it right and sometimes he may get it wrong. Some of the times he may have gotten it wrong, maybe Ragozin got it right. The deal is that these sort of discrepancies may lead to a hidden virtue (or hidden weakness) in a horse. I am just trying to unlock such hidden stuff and having two bites at the apple gets me a second chance at that.
Also, and I am not busting on Thorograph here, but sometimes Thorograph makes mistakes, too. There was the one mentioned on the site in NoCal where somebody subtracted a number that shoudl have been added. Also, I have emailed Thorograph when I have seen a number I have purchased that is clearly wrong. Also, I have noticed on rare occasion that their ground comment appears to be wrong (I am incredibly sensitive to needlessly wide rides from idiot jocks and ones that cost me money stick in my head. I was shocked once to see such a bad ride get a 1w,1w later on -- Jerry, if you want me to point this one out to you I would be happy to off line). Again, none of this is criticism, it just happens and I am very happy with Thorograph.
Finally, I will see if I can lock up the name Ethel Mertz. If somebody has beaten me to it, I may have to be something like EthelMertz2 or EthelMertz37. As to the original SoCalMan....there is no mystery about him. He is me. I just lost the password and could not figure out how to get it back at the time I wanted to post something so I just made a SoCalMan2. I used to live in Southern California (a 12 minute drive from Los Alamitos, and I am a big fan of Southern California racing (even though it has fallen on some tough times compared to the good old days).
Enough of this, it is late and I need to go.
SoCal-- Mistakes? MOI???
Yes, I definitely would like you to let me know about the horse with the 1w1w.