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Title: Beyer rating for Classic winner?
Post by: gambino on November 06, 2004, 07:41:46 PM
Anyone know?Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Beyer rating for Classic winner?
Post by: gambino on November 06, 2004, 08:56:16 PM
Ghostzapper that is.
Title: Re: Beyer rating for Classic winner?
Post by: BitPlayer on November 07, 2004, 05:41:04 AM
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Title: Re: Beyer rating for Classic winner?
Post by: gambino on November 07, 2004, 08:02:14 AM
Thank you,I hear he was easing him at the wire too.
Title: Easy Going and Sunday Cards
Post by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 on November 07, 2004, 08:30:34 AM
lol

He was easing him about four jumps into the race. He\'s undoubtedly got some talent, but lets see him face a legit pace or run in the Santa Anita Handicap, Hollywood Gold Cup or Pacific Classic before we anoint him.

Some good racing today at Aqueduct and Churchill. Really nice purses at both facilities. Weather and track conditions look ideal.

CtC



Post Edited (11-07-04 11:36)
Title: Re: Beyer rating for Classic winner?
Post by: jimbo66 on November 08, 2004, 04:38:14 PM
CtC,

I hope there are more like who are doubting Ghostzapper.  Questioning whether he is \"great\" or not is a fair question.  But to say he is no \"Dancing Spree\" is a bad statement.

1.  He has won in Sprints and Routes in Grade 1 company.

2.  He stalked a fast pace and won at Monmouth (albeit small field and sloppy surface).

3.  He has dropped back to last and swept the entire field in Sprints.

4.  He overcame adversity and bumping in his Woodward race.

5.  He went \"wire to wire\" for the first time against what was supposed to be the best Classic field in years.  Winning easily.

What else could he have done in the races he won this year to prove he was the best?  Obviously he could have raced more often.  But in the races he won, he couldn\'t have been better.

The constant comments about drugs appear shallow to me and I am sure others on this board as well.  

GZ is at least a very very good horse. Let\'s see what happens next year, maybe he becomes a great horse.  As a sheets player, if you believe in Jerry\'s numbers at all, you have to respect the fastest horse of all time.  I am guessing Jerry has no vested interest in giving GZ huge figures.
Title: Re: Beyer rating for Classic winner?
Post by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 on November 08, 2004, 07:06:08 PM
My comment about Dancing Spree was a little tongue in cheek. But, if you look at GZ\'s 6.5 mark Vosburgh, he would not have won at 6.

GZ is cheating. I\'m absolutely sure of it. He has ability, but I\'m gonna beat him down. Frankel doesnt run any at two. Its one of his good traits. He saves them til they are three, because at three they handle the medicine better. That said, look at GZ\'s p.p.\'s. The horse has problems of some kind. They never thought he was a rounter until they entered that Grade III for yucks and he surprised them. I\'m gonna beat this horse next year. I\'ll say when.

TGJB proves me wrong more times than not. If I was playing the probabilities I\'d say T-Graph got it right. But, I\'m not. :) I\'m gonna put the whammy on GZ. But, I have to come up with a good whammy. Last one I whammied beat me. I may have to reach down for the nasty hoodoo. I haven\'t done a Cupi doll curse in years. I know, I know, Alydar insists its \"kewpie\".



Post Edited (11-08-04 22:06)