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Title: Tote watching
Post by: banditbeau on September 08, 2024, 10:12:40 AM
I don’t follow Del Mar too much and had no skin in the win pool there yesterday in the 11th race. But I couldn’t help but notice the effect of the computer guys. As the horses entered the gate and just before the latch was sprung, the 12 horse was 13/1. It had $6764 in the win pool out of a total of $318,315. The horse wired the field and came back to pay $21.20 from what looks like a $28 plus mutual. Talk about a kick in the hind end if you thought you were gonna get that only to see you get a 25% discount for picking out long shot winner. Does anybody other than NYRA shut out this action close to the start of the race?
Title: Re: Tote watching
Post by: BitPlayer on September 08, 2024, 08:27:24 PM
Late money had a big effect in the Del Mar Futurity as well.  Citizen Bull went from being shown as the 5/2 second choice when the gates opened to closing as the 6/5 favorite.  Ran third.

He also wasn\'t favored based on the DD\'s from the 9th race.  To be fair, he was favored in the Pick-3 will-pays, but that was based on a small amount of live money, since the $2 DD for races 8 and 9 paid $999.

I\'m curious how much of the late money was CAW money.  I\'ve read that, while Santa Anita and Del Mar allow CAW teams to bet late in the win pool, their rebate is reduced if they do so.

I was watching TVG pre-race, and they made a big deal (including an owner interview) out of the fact that Baffert had said Citizen Bull was only 80% fit for his maiden win.
Title: Re: Tote watching
Post by: jerry on September 08, 2024, 09:53:32 PM
That’s nothing. In the 8th today at KY Downs, She’s All Charm had a ML of 9/2. Opened somewhere around 6/1. Dropped to 5/1 as they were loading. Came home 5/2. Finished 6th. Was my key. I cannot win anything at this track. It’s a weird race track.