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Title: Risen Star
Post by: Sandreadis on February 17, 2024, 10:21:32 AM
Race is loaded with a full field, all the top trainers, top jocks, high dollar flesh.
I\'ll watch the tote but Catching Freedom TG pattern looks good to go forward.
Who you got?
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: Tavasco on February 17, 2024, 02:19:06 PM
Resilience or Bea Dancer
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: statuette on February 17, 2024, 02:55:18 PM
Real men violin
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: ajkreider on February 17, 2024, 04:50:06 PM
Remsen was some kind of key race!
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: Roman on February 18, 2024, 02:46:19 PM
Thought Track Phantom ran a nice race finishing second. Wide draw, made all the pace, and I think that track gets really heavy and sticky when it’s that wet. He is much better on a dry track. Dornoch is twice the price of Sierra Leone in the futures.
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: Tavasco on February 19, 2024, 06:40:42 AM
I wonder about the pace and its affect in this race. for example, did the pace exhaust the front runners allowing the winner (Sierra Leone) to come barreling by late.

Or was Sierra Leone\'s trip strategy to his own detriment?

I suppose Sierra Leone will earn a good # from TG given his ground loss. But looking forward, this kind of deep closer tactic can also compromise a horses chance in a large field like the Kentucky Derby.

The idea that the pace setters would have lasted longer on a dry surface seems to have merit. I\'ll be somewhat keen on the 2nd, 3rd, 4th finishers in their next outing.

The Remsen, I won\'t be purposefully discounting its participants as in recent years. \"Some Kind of\" Key race? I think so!
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: ajkreider on April 08, 2024, 06:18:50 PM
Question for JB:

Beyer saw fit to raise the figures 5 pts across the board for this race.  Track was sloppy.  Is TG confident in the numbers?
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: TGJB on April 08, 2024, 09:22:15 PM
I saw that. I’m going to review a bunch of races, we’ll look at that one, but by memory the question was where I did it or one point faster, which would be 3 Beyer points. It can’t be faster than that, and doesn’t change the read on the Derby horses either way. I haven’t done Saturday Kee yet but it’s going to be a big new top for Sierra Leone regardless.
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: TGJB on April 10, 2024, 10:16:59 AM
I took a point off the Risen Star, which doesn’t change much. That day it was sloppy with 20+ mph winds, lots of horses didn’t fire.
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: BitPlayer on April 14, 2024, 06:50:26 AM
Did the change in the Risen Star result in any change in the Louisiana Derby?
Title: Re: Risen Star
Post by: TGJB on April 14, 2024, 02:24:00 PM
No.