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Title: Pacific Classic
Post by: prist on August 31, 2023, 08:22:35 AM
What to do with STILLETO BOY?

Last year, right around this time, he backed up off the 0. Two races back he ran a new top, and bounced off that at Ellis. Does he mirror what he did last year off the top, or does he move forward off the 2.50?

I don\'t know. He looks tempting. The top may be a bad target, but he doesn\'t need it to run well/win in here, IMHO.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: jerry on August 31, 2023, 09:01:47 AM
Where are you seeing sheets for the Pacific Classic?
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: prist on August 31, 2023, 09:34:44 AM
Home Page.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: Roman on August 31, 2023, 10:23:34 AM
And do you toss Geaux Rocket Ride off a 5 point new top? Has the rail and probably needs to attend to the front to get a good trip. Complete toss?
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: prist on September 01, 2023, 07:53:13 AM
Having a difficult time finding a win bet going off the ML.

KATONAH to win @ 12/1 and up.

Another three point move puts him right in this. ;-)
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: jbelfior on September 01, 2023, 09:41:55 AM
It will be interesting to see how the 3yos in here stack up versus their elders.

I\'ll take a stab with the 4yo \"Slow Down Andy.\" Back to his top in last and any forward move puts him in there tomorrow.



Good Luck,
Joe B
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: jerry on September 01, 2023, 09:51:27 AM
No value at the ML but ARABIAN NIGHT and GEAUX ROCKET RIDE are my picks. The latter could bounce off of his last but I expect ARABIAN NIGHT to go negative.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: Tavasco on September 01, 2023, 01:21:08 PM
The following link lists some highlights and history of the this race.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Classic_Stakes

One obvious fact that stands out to me is this race is only occasionally won by a three year old and most of those were noteworthy in their celebrity.

Any of this year\'s 3 y/o\'s can still achieve celebrity but I\'m going to limit my win bet candidates to a 4 or 5 y/o. Just a statistical perspective.

3) Stiletto Boy 8/1 I don\'t care for Shackleford sire at the distance

5) Defunded 4/1 carries a Baffert discount

7) Slow Down Andy 8/1 I don\'t fancy sire Nyquist at the distance

8) Senor Buscador 10/1 Is in terrific form with double digit m/l = my key
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: Roman on September 02, 2023, 01:08:12 PM
Going to box Arabian Knight,Defunded, and Senor Buscado. Don't think Stiletto Boy likes Del Mar, and Geaux Rocket Ride off that five point top has me wondering if he regresses a couple.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: P-Dub on September 02, 2023, 06:00:07 PM
Slow Down Andy got back to his 3YO top in his 2nd start as a 4YO.

I love this sheet and he can absolutely move forward and take this at the current 7/1.

He\'s my key using with Stiletto Boy, Defunded, Senor Buscador, Piroli
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: prist on September 02, 2023, 06:25:53 PM
Nice call, Jerry. You got the exacta.

ARABIAN KNIGHT had a nice Thoro-Graph pattern. Credit where credit is due.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: Tavasco on September 02, 2023, 06:46:40 PM
Well, Roman I think you were correct about at least one thing, apparently Stilletto Boy doesn\'t like DMR.

The winner got a superior ride by jockey Prat and may get even better with maturity. But such a beautiful animal probably heading for the breeding shed rather than another year of racing?

Mike Smith turned in kind of a mediocre trip considering how well his mount finished and of course my choice (Senor Buscador) probably earns the best speed figure while getting nada.

Good early pace results in a Final time of 2:03+ seems dull.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: Roman on September 02, 2023, 07:52:20 PM
Usually I am wrong all the time, so being somewhat correct, I will take it. Slow Down Andy was a horse I was afraid of before the race, he looked like a winner coming into the stretch.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: Tavasco on September 02, 2023, 08:01:30 PM
Yep, P-Dub was probably standing on a table at least on his feet encouraging that one. But I think the Jockey left his race on the first turn antics.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: Molesap on September 02, 2023, 11:07:11 PM
Unfortunately Slow Down Andy ran to his name - thought the time was slow as well, but did not pay attention to times most of the day, so I do not know how the track was playing.
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: prist on September 03, 2023, 07:39:50 AM
You did well, Roman. You were right about everything except for GO ROCKET RIDE ... who had a tough line to deal with. Well done.

The last two horses I was interested in both finished dead last. Maybe I\'ll go for the trifecta next week. ;-)
Title: Re: Pacific Classic
Post by: P-Dub on September 03, 2023, 02:32:19 PM
Tavasco Wrote:
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> Yep, P-Dub was probably standing on a table at
> least on his feet encouraging that one. But I
> think the Jockey left his race on the first turn
> antics.


Yeah turning for home I thought he had a big shot..........

.....kinda like I thought WV/Penn St UNDER 49 had a big shot after that last 1D.........until they decided to tack on a spread and Over covering TD when taking a knee ended the game.