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Title: Topper T at Prairie Meadows
Post by: Roman on July 24, 2023, 01:54:29 PM
Drf gave him a 110 beyer in a 30k aoc, does TG have him that fast?
Title: Re: Topper T at Prairie Meadows
Post by: mjellish on July 26, 2023, 06:20:19 PM
Buy the data and find out.

For what it is worth, one of the most golden rail biased days at any track this year. Every winner was on the rail for most of the trip, some made sense anyway and some didn't.  If anyone wants to see what golden rail looks like this is it.  Watch the replays, read the charts or whatever.

Think bounce, or at least note that moving forward is my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Topper T at Prairie Meadows
Post by: grinder on July 26, 2023, 06:41:28 PM
Glad to know that your still hanging around - and it\'s not even Derby week!
Title: Re: Topper T at Prairie Meadows
Post by: Roman on July 27, 2023, 09:49:36 AM
Was not asking for a free figure, just sparking a debate about figs.
Title: Re: Topper T at Prairie Meadows
Post by: mjellish on July 27, 2023, 09:16:24 PM
I get it.  I wasnt trying to make any other point other than that I feel the answer is in those charts.   Very fast race for the day, over a very biased track. The figure is going to be fast.  Period.  But to me your question was somewhat of an irrelevant question.  We cant bet on that race anymore.  So the question to me is, no matter what the figure is on Beyer or TG what is the likelihood of that horse repeating that figure next out, let alone moving forward.

For what it is worth, my guess would be the TG figure will likely correlate pretty strongly with the Beyer.  Carried 4 lbs more than second place finisher and won by a pole and saved all the ground all the way.
Title: Re: Topper T at Prairie Meadows
Post by: Roman on July 28, 2023, 09:46:01 AM
No worries, all good, agree on the bias, really like horses that ran on a biased track the next time out over a different track that may play more evenly.
Title: Re: Saratoga weather
Post by: pip4126 on July 29, 2023, 07:12:34 AM
Does anyone know if there will be thunderstorms later today that might effect the late turf races?
Thanks
Title: Re: Saratoga weather
Post by: shanahan on July 29, 2023, 01:04:41 PM
Fox TV shows \"off turf\".  NYRA says turf is \"firm\"...who the hell knows for sure?  This is ridiculous
Title: Re: NYRA Stewards
Post by: pip4126 on July 29, 2023, 03:00:18 PM
What a disgrace! They need to be investigated and fired. To decide that fragrant fouls so quickly is unbelievable.