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Title: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: nicely nicely on April 21, 2022, 10:04:56 PM
Available as a Special from our regular Buy TG Data Menu

Top 18 points leaders for the Oaks
Top 25 points leaders for the Derby
Race Shapes are included.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: johnnym on April 22, 2022, 06:17:08 AM
Some very interesting #s and patterns
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: bobl49 on April 22, 2022, 06:37:37 AM
quick question on the special-are there numbers for the Meydan horses-Shahama, Crown Pride and Summer is Tomorrow? thanks.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: TGJB on April 22, 2022, 06:59:23 AM
Yes.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: ajkreider on April 22, 2022, 05:18:41 PM
No sheet genius here, but I agree that there look like a lot of potential forward moves in there, with no reason to think they\'ve reached their top.  But on that point, how much of a jump from their 2 year old best looks like too much?

Will be very interested to see what a Taiba\'s odds are day of.  

If we can find an excuse for Morello\'s last, he will be monster value.

Think Zozos gets lost in the shuffle. Will add nicely to a super.

Messier will be an overlay.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: Roman on April 23, 2022, 12:12:00 PM
If Taiba has a forward move in figures, might be really tough to beat, might be a ex-baffert exacta with messier. Could see them run 1-2!
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: johnnym on April 23, 2022, 04:26:14 PM
To be cynical
A Bafteen ex would be the ultimate F.U
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: johnnym on April 24, 2022, 05:18:48 AM
Morello is out
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: jbelfior on April 24, 2022, 05:31:40 AM
Has Taiba worked since the SA Derby?


Good Luck,
Joe B.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: hooper on April 24, 2022, 06:05:45 AM
From DRF.

Taiba, the winner of the Santa Anita Derby, will have just one work in preparation for the Kentucky Derby, trainer Tim Yakteen said Saturday, a few hours after he had worked his other potential Derby starter, Santa Anita Derby runner-up Messier.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: bobl49 on April 25, 2022, 02:10:58 PM
Now that Classic Causeway is in the Derby field, any chance of us that purchased the $25 pkg getting his sheet? Thanks for considering the request.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: TGJB on April 25, 2022, 04:11:50 PM
We will take care of it.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: bobl49 on April 26, 2022, 06:20:42 AM
Sorry to bother you again, but would it be ok to ask for Oaks sheets on Adare Manor and Beguine? Thanks again.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: TGJB on April 26, 2022, 06:53:01 AM
Last I heard Adare Manor is out. If it looks like we need to send others we will do it in a few days.

Highly unlikely anyone else is a contender given the strength of the field.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: bobl49 on April 26, 2022, 07:07:45 AM
thx
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: Strike on April 26, 2022, 07:47:44 AM
So far in their careers, is this the strongest overall 3-year old filly division in your opinion?
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: TGJB on April 26, 2022, 08:27:09 AM
Probably the strongest Oaks, too soon on the division but it's definitely up there.

By the way, Adare Manor is supposed to run in a stake Derby week, and how she runs is not irrelevant in handicapping the Derby.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: RICH on April 26, 2022, 12:37:20 PM
so the winner of the oaks gets a slower fig than the SA derby horses on the same day that the oak race is 5 sec faster, tracked changed that much? possible change in figs coming?
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: RICH on April 26, 2022, 12:38:41 PM
wrong distance, sorry
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: Roman on April 28, 2022, 12:48:54 PM
With so many top choices in the field having run one race better than the next each time out, who are the choices to having run off or an x in the derby?
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: TGJB on April 28, 2022, 12:59:31 PM
We have a new study for the seminar this year, it's pretty cool.
Title: Re: 2022 Kentucky Oaks and Derby Probables - Now Online - $25
Post by: Roman on April 28, 2022, 02:57:19 PM
Any insight or tidbits can you share? Derby fever kicking in, 9 days to go!
Title: Re: Adare Manor
Post by: BitPlayer on April 28, 2022, 03:12:38 PM
Yakteen said in the HRN article re Taiba that Adare Manor is not shipping.