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Title: Radar
Post by: Tavasco on March 19, 2022, 02:23:41 PM
Laura Cazares Trainer GP

Emisael Jaramillo Jockey GP smart and a little lucky ride in the 11th GP
Title: Re: Radar
Post by: Socalman3 on March 20, 2022, 10:01:18 AM
Tavasco Wrote:
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> Laura Cazares Trainer GP
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> Emisael Jaramillo Jockey GP smart and a little
> lucky ride in the 11th GP


Did you mean the 10th?  The Silks Run?

If yes, it looks to me like the horse previously had an issue racing without Lasix and then all of a sudden in his 6 year old year, he has no problem running new tops and pairing them without Lasix.  Looks like some Lasix substitute may have been found (although not reported).  Am I misreading?  I feel like the complexity of the lasix on and off issue just means that much more work needs to go into the analysis.  Also, as this horse points out, not all trainers are the same on this point - you need to analyze trainer by trainer.  I dont think Casse would have let this horse go for $62k if he was aware of the availability of a Lasix substitute.
Title: Re: Radar
Post by: Tavasco on March 20, 2022, 12:10:16 PM
Socalman3 Wrote:
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> Did you mean the 10th?  The Silks Run?

Yessir, I did mean the 10th race, not the 11th as I referenced.

I am not attuned to the pharmacology of the backside, but the point you make about a Lasix substitute makes sense to me. Further, I suppose testing will always be playing catch-up.

I\'ll keep my eye on this trainer in the context of your comments. - Thanks
Title: Re: Radar
Post by: Socalman3 on March 20, 2022, 02:15:53 PM
Tavasco Wrote:
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> Socalman3 Wrote:
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> > Did you mean the 10th?  The Silks Run?
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> Yessir, I did mean the 10th race, not the 11th as
> I referenced.
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> I am not attuned to the pharmacology of the
> backside, but the point you make about a Lasix
> substitute makes sense to me. Further, I suppose
> testing will always be playing catch-up.
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> I\'ll keep my eye on this trainer in the context of
> your comments. - Thanks

There could be other pharmacological explanations going on -- it is 6 year old with 20 races under its girth running its two fastest races as a 6 year old -- I was only noting that until this year and this trainer, this horse was clearly one that ran better on lasix than off it and then all of a sudden that changed.  More than one thing can be going on at a time.