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Title: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: nicely nicely on July 07, 2021, 03:10:10 AM
Part 1
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/dr-rick-arthur-qa-part-one

Part 2
https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/dr-rick-arthur-qa-part-two/
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Strike on July 07, 2021, 09:49:08 AM
Interesting wide-ranging interview. A lot of Baffert in the discussion -- from horse deaths; Justify not being disqualified; and opinions about Baffert\'s \"quarter horse\" style of training.

So, Sha\'Carri Richardson won\'t be allowed to compete in the Tokyo Olympics due to a 30-day suspension for a positive for marijuana (that is legal in Oregon where the race/test took place). She had no excuses -- just an explanation that she was depressed due to her mother\'s death and took a puff. She accepts the punishment. A positive -- even a very outdated positive -- is a positive. Her honesty is noteworthy.

Baffert can take a few lessons from this young lady.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Fairmount1 on July 07, 2021, 04:51:38 PM
Baffert would say she is an absolute fool.  In his eyes, she should have blamed the family/friends at her mom\'s funeral gathering for baking some laced brownies.

___________________

As for Arthur, I\'m hardly impressed.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Fairmount1 on July 07, 2021, 06:25:18 PM
Right on time. . . . LMAO

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/baffert-alleges-hypocrisy-backdoor-tactics-behind-nyra-ban/
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Strike on July 07, 2021, 08:41:14 PM
The sport would be so much better if he just went away. You would think that after the media and SNL and just about everyone ridiculed him for being the tool that he is -- he would fade away. Narcissists don\'t fade away. They need to be taken away in handcuffs.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Strike on July 07, 2021, 08:43:47 PM
For those who need a proper definition of tool --

Tool: (noun)

1.) A guy with a hugely over-inflated ego, who in an attempt to get un-due attention for himself, will act like a jackass, because, in his deluded state, he will think it\'s going to make him look cool, or make others want to be like him. The person may even insincerely apologize later on, but only in an attempt to get more attention, or to excuse his blatantly intentional, and unrepentantly tool-ish behavior.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: HP on July 08, 2021, 05:34:56 AM
There’s a solution. Boycott races with Baffert entries. Don’t bet on them. Make your voice heard at the windows.
Title: Integrity vs NYRA
Post by: Tavasco on July 09, 2021, 04:11:09 AM
As I understand it the NYRA 86\'d race entries from trainer Bob Baffert. That was prior to the Belmont stakes. Maybe, things have changed but I think he is still uninvited to participate in horse races held in the Empire state.

In a decision made by executives/administrators and supported by the NY  Jockey Club, the NYRA organization simply refused service to shoe-less Bob. Using the notion those with the power get to make the rules.

Along comes Natalie and her gal pal Debbie with their pet Turf racehorse Du Jour. A horse trained by shoeless Bob. A husband?, an ex-husband?, a brother?, Bodie\'s mom?, and a very suspicious turf trainer!. Du Jour is entered in the Belmont Derby Saturday? (a race Elsa may ruin)

True to the spirit of NYRA\'s BB ban, they are mum,

For me, as someone who sees\'s only what\'s on the surface of this story, I\'m gonna go watch another episode of The Mysteries of Skin Walker Ranch. This makes more sense to me than NYRA vs Baffert while (IMHO) making no sense at all.

Bottom line, I like the Japanese Horse, CB doing his best to stay off the radar not as formidable as pre-pandemic.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Bet Twice on July 09, 2021, 02:19:07 PM
Reminds me of another narcissist.   Hopefully, the handcuffs are coming for him too…..
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Strike on July 10, 2021, 04:09:57 PM
Silver Charm Wrote:
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> Give it up IDIOT. It\'s a Horse Racing Handicapping
> Board. All of your problems are the fault of Fox
> News and Trump. Yah right. What a Fu#***g Loser
> you are. TGJB how can I put this Bum on ignore.
> Its every String. Every Post.
>
> Glad to see some fans and Euro Shippers at these
> races. Maybe there is some normalcy to the races
> at The Spa and Del Mar this Summer. Maybe there
> can a few real Handicapping discussions that dont
> involve....take your pick: Baffert and Drug or
> Trump and Fox News Clown!!

Question smart guy -- why don\'t YOU start \"a real handicapping discussion\" if YOU are able to? I am waiting... .
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: TGJB on July 10, 2021, 04:46:28 PM
I thought he was talking about me.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Silver Charm on July 10, 2021, 05:04:07 PM
I didn\'t post on here for a year after last June someone (will go unnamed) trashed the Owners (E-Five, Claiborne are friends) trying to get their horses back on the Track after a COVD shut down. Claiming the Owners were meaningless to the game.  

Now we have CLOWNS in every post talking about Baffert and his Positives. Pete Rose. Fox News and Trump. And a friend of mine on here who happens to be a front line worker risking his life every day was attacked as a Fox News Zealot for implying Baffert needs due process.

I posted Gufo in the Manhattan on Belmont Day. I\'ve made 2 bet since. Waiting for the Spa and Ckosed two large deals at work the last week of June. Bahamas last weekend playing golf. Another friend owner has a piece of Happy Saver. They liked him. I passed the race. Nice hit by the ROTW. All the good handicappers on the Board have left. Mall. Derby1592. Miff. Frank D. Covello. Many long ago. It\'s no longer a Handicapping Board. Someone even implied last June of there are no fans why bother with ANY live racing. On a horse racing Handicapping Board. Now think about that. It\'s a Shit Show
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Silver Charm on July 10, 2021, 05:06:27 PM
Doubt it Bud. You can be tough but your a dam smart businessman. Read my last comment. And GL at The Spa. I\'m trying for Labor Day weekend but its doubtful
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: P-Dub on July 10, 2021, 05:07:19 PM
Silver Charm Wrote:
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> All the good handicappers on the Board have left.

I\'m still here.

Thank You.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Strike on July 10, 2021, 05:28:21 PM
Me too.
I guess we are all \"idiots\" who have conversations about the most important negative event in Kentucky Derby history -- a probable disqualification due to a banned substance positive (twice tested) -- that follows a disqualification the year before in the Kentucky Oaks race (again twice tested). By the same trainer -- Bob Baffert. Pretty newsworthy most believe. I guess not all... .

Let me point out that in my opinion, the Board is about horse racing in general. Not just handicapping. If I am wrong, Jerry can correct me. I am a fan. I am a long time owner. I am a gambler. I enjoy all aspects of my participation in the sport and enjoy discussions about them all.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Fairmount1 on July 10, 2021, 06:00:29 PM
Silver et al,

The board is probably a microcosm of the entire industry.  

Drugs overtook the sport at nearly every level and location the past 5 years.  Prior to that it was happening but not this prevalent.  The inmates started running the asylum.  Meanwhile, Gamblers have found it harder and harder to win during this same time period as computer teams and rebates completely changed how profitable players pursue their profits the past decade or so.  

Many people have moved their tack to twitter with their gambling and racing opinions.  Some have drifted away from the game altogether.  Others agree that only Clowns are posting here (I had a friend tell me that a few weeks ago via phone and he implied it included me!  But no worries, I keep posting a bit. LOL.)

Racing seems to be in decline on some fronts.  The gambling numbers are pretty static it seems for total handle but when 34% of all Pick 5 handle at Del mar comes from 8 accounts at Elite Turf Club (See Pat Cummings twitter), it tells you that ordinary bettors are not growing the game.  Foal crops are way down from a decade ago, field size is way down, Arlington Park is likely closing soon and the game is not thriving.  The TG board is, in part, a reflection of where the game is at these days.  

I am guilty on the Baffert front.  But he has tested positive in the SA Derby, the Ark Derby, the Ky Oaks and Ky Derby.  That\'s quite a problem and deserves scrutiny. But I have not chased the Rose, Trump or Fox News fronts.    

Labor Day weekend was one of my favorites a few years ago at the Spa.  Very memorable weekend.  I too hope to make it at least once but with flights far different now (price and less direct options) and rental cars a disaster, it is looking less and less likely.  But one good pick 4 in the next week or so and an impulsive spur of the moment trip might be in order no matter the cost.  

If I can make it, I look forward to seeing some TG-ers at the one spot you can still enjoy a day at the races no matter the state of the game or the state of the TG Board.
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: HP on July 11, 2021, 06:27:37 AM
I don’t know about Fox News, but talking about Baffert positives is talking about handicapping.

I look at a race and see Baffert has a horse in there. So I’m handicapping and now I have to say, “doesn’t figure but it’s Baffert.” I’ve seen the “but it’s Baffert” comment many times, including in TG analysis. It’s a huge handicapping factor that costs money to cover and deal with all the time.

If someone is so upset about what is or isn’t on a board the solution is simple. People are like horses, they usually show their class one way or the other.

HP
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: HP on July 11, 2021, 09:43:34 AM
Handicapping - This year\'s BC Juvenile, Princess Noor.  How many of us included this horse?  Because it was Baffert?  And if it wasn\'t Baffert how many of us would have bet her?  My answers - Me and not me.  How many of us have done this and how much money have we blown through doing it?  Because of all this wink wink I think he\'s cheating stuff.  

In fairness to Baffert we can substitute a lot of names for \"but it\'s #$%@*&.\"  It sucks, and what racing does here is pretty important for handicapping practically every big day and lots of lesser events.  People are pissed (I\'m cracking up typing this word) and its overdue.  Unfortunately sometimes emotions get the better of everyone, but talking about the Baffert deal is relevant here, in spades.  

HP
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: Silver Charm on July 11, 2021, 09:52:36 AM
As I said I quit posting for a year. And as Fairmount pointed out via the others who have left the Board, some of whom I know....\"only the Clowns are Posting here\". Their words not mine.

Thanks for the usual input
Title: Re: TDN Rick Arthur Interview
Post by: HP on July 11, 2021, 10:34:33 AM
Then I’m proud to be a Clown. Your wisdom will be missed.  

HP