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Title: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: P-Dub on March 11, 2020, 09:49:40 PM
Big race days......Big prep race days, Triple Crown.......will they be next to exclude people from attending???
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Tavasco on March 12, 2020, 01:24:31 AM
IMO, if they do...Churchill Will be the last if they do.

Stronach well all I can do is laugh at her
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: trackjohn on March 12, 2020, 04:40:07 AM
Just a matter of time...think about it for a minute... Most every state, local, and nation officials as well as virtually EVERY medical infectious disease expert had stated \"stay away from large crowds...NBA postponed...NCAA March Madness with no Madness (no fans in the stands)...NHL on the verge of postponing their season...MLB in discussions in starting their season with no fans... Horse racing will be forced to follow along...it will also become a legal issue... Imagine if ALL of the professional sports are in lock step... Racing (CD) decides on their own to conduct business as usual...then people attending the Derby get infected by other patrons...the lawsuits that would follow would be staggering... The Derby is in 58 days...IF there is a drastic reduction in the spread of the virus (and it would have to happen within the next 30 days there might be a possibility having the Derby festivities... however given the incredibly rapid developments in the past 24 hours? I seriously doubt that it happens...my guess is that they run the race with no one in the stands... Living room downs anyone?
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Paolo on March 12, 2020, 08:20:01 AM
Great, lets make sure the shysters and pettifoggers keep working. That\'s more scandalous and problematic than the racing cheats. Ambulance chasers will file suit for vaccine injury AND now you say they will also file if somebody simply contracts the virus? In other words, deep pockets are always negligent. (no need to point out that corona has no current vaccine and is less understood). It\'s anything to make a buck, a la Navarro and Servis.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Silver Charm on March 12, 2020, 09:39:28 AM
As someone involved in a large Charity Event that weekend no fans in the stands is not an option. And for the Track they cant support those purses without the people.

The First Saturday in June can work. And if there was ever a time to look how the model works of more spaci g for the Triple Crown, now would be it. The last weekend of the Belmont Meet could be Belmont Stakes day.

These businesses have fixed costs and Bill\'s to pay. Think outside the box. Meanwhile please squeeze one more weekend of LIVE out for me....haha
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Silver Charm on March 12, 2020, 09:46:10 AM
FYI there is talk the Florida Derby could be cancelled. So who qualifies with a points system?

The option that makes the most sense is to push everything back. And who gives a crap about the No No No the boating season opens in Baltimore it has to be that weekend. Fine! Move the Preakness.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: trackjohn on March 12, 2020, 10:08:49 AM
Silver:

Postponing it is obviously the better option...the unknown (for all sporting events and the entire country!) is for how long... hopefully things calm down by mid April and all of the postponed events can get resume...BUT...I learned a long time ago hope is not a strategy...
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Boscar Obarra on March 12, 2020, 10:45:13 AM
why stop at big days, might just outright cancel
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Strike on March 12, 2020, 10:50:12 AM
Boscar Obarra Wrote:
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> why stop at big days, might just outright cancel

For now Santa Anita will run races with no fans allowed. That can change.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Silver Charm on March 12, 2020, 10:50:26 AM
One main obstacle with the The Triple Crown is happens at 3 different venues. So that requires cooperation. We all know how that goes in horse racing.

Beyond that there are a lot vendors who rely on that income so a \"peopleless event\" is a financial problem for more than just the Tracks. This is the United States of America and the people in this country are tough and flexible. Adjustments need to happen and the people will understand. The Breeders Cup still occurred 60 days after 9-11 in New York and we may have already been at War by then.

So far the only PIGS who are going on about business is the NCAA. Its business as usual. The flesh of the Kids we use every year will be out there on a made for TV Only event and life goes on. Screw the schools and the fans. They are so flush with TV money that don\'t fu&king care......
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: P-Dub on March 12, 2020, 10:54:58 AM
There is no way the NCAAB tournament is played.  That will probably be cancelled later today.

Sounds like racing is next also.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Boscar Obarra on March 12, 2020, 11:09:36 AM
CHDN has been cut in half, good news for those that hate that outfit I guess

Not sure why they are only cancelling large gatherings like 500 people in NY.

You mean 50 is safe ?
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Paolo on March 12, 2020, 11:49:39 AM
Disagree with hard line against NCAA. The college boys here haven\'t trained and rehabbed all year to sit on their arse. They want to play. \"Don\'t need some dude in a suit and a tie telling me no\". Their words, not mine... Play ball and run the ponies w/o live spectators.
Perhaps you can make an argument for oppo lawsuits... taking away their livelihood. Always gonna be negligence!
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: johnnym on March 12, 2020, 12:12:48 PM
Couldn’t they just say this is mostly affecting the elderly (over 70) and people with underlying medical conditions.
We urge this group of people to please stay away from large events!
Don’t like the way this is heading at all
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: hellersorr on March 12, 2020, 12:59:14 PM
It\'s a brutal decision no matter what you do.

For instance, the more businesses you close the more paychecks people are going to miss.  Which means the more mortgage payments and rents and car payments that won\'t be paid.  Do people lose their houses?  Do renters get kicked out? Do people lose their cars?

How many businesses never re-open due to loans not being repaid?  How many people are bankrupted?

You close schools?  Well, lots of kids get their only decent meals at school.  And lots of kids would have to stay with their grandparents during the day.  Kids CARRY Covid-19, grandparents CONTRACT it.

Sometimes the only choices available are bad.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: richiebee on March 12, 2020, 01:45:26 PM
Johnny:

As I understand things, this virus will affect millions of people, with the
greatest risk of serious illness or death being, as you say, for the elderly
and or those with underlying health issues.

By allowing people to come together in large groups, chances increase that
large numbers of people will become sick in a short period of time,
overwhelming hospitals and healthcare professionals.

So lets say, simplifying and using round numbers, that 100 million Americans
will catch this virus. There is a big difference if 50 million people get sick
in each of the next two months (overwhelming our healthcare infrastructure), as
opposed to 10 million people being stricken each month over the next 10 months.
This is why (and as I type this apparently March Madness has been cancelled?)
there is a concerted effort to prevent people from congregating in large
groups.

I am trying to remain calm, but now regret having read \"Andromeda Strain\", \"The
Stand\" and \"The Hot Zone\".

The largest benefit of a Kentucky Derby without spectators would be the absence
of the ridiculous TV network coverage of celebrities, their selections, their
hats, what they are drinking, etc.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: FrankD. on March 12, 2020, 01:50:12 PM
No need to cancel Aqueduct if they are worried about groups of 500 or more.....
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: philywheel on March 12, 2020, 02:41:00 PM
https://www.nyra.com/aqueduct/

philywheel
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: NoCarolinaTony on March 12, 2020, 03:13:12 PM
Keeneland will race with no fans for first two weeks.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: trackjohn on March 12, 2020, 03:17:09 PM
Richie:

If you regret reading those books what ever you do DO NOT WATCH THE MOVIE CONTAGION!!
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: richiebee on March 12, 2020, 03:27:55 PM
Actually saw it and enjoyed watching the doctors saw the top of Gwyneth Paltrow’s skull off during the autopsy.

Have been singing one of your favorite Billy Joel songs to myself all day... “Seen The Lights Go Out on Broadway”
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: trackjohn on March 12, 2020, 03:31:26 PM
How fitting...\"I\'ve seen the Empire State lay low...
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: richiebee on March 12, 2020, 03:48:36 PM
Strangely, a window of opportunity for the beleaguered Racing industry.

Because if racing somehow continues, but casinos and all team sports are shut down for a significant amount of time....

Here’s the commercial to be run repeatedly on TV over the next months: the usual footage of a stretch duel in super slow motion. The voice over says, seductively, “We’re the only game in town...”
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: FrankD. on March 12, 2020, 03:53:50 PM
Who is the voice? Navarro or Servis ðŸ¤"
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: richiebee on March 12, 2020, 04:12:49 PM
Frankie Rainbow:

In my mind it’s a female voice. Any female but my wife.

Kind of convenient that MLB and NHL are on hiatus, giving Yankee lineup and Kreider time to heal.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: KeithB on March 12, 2020, 07:48:58 PM
HOT SPRINGS, Ark. - Oaklawn Park will not allow spectators ontrack this weekend in the wake of the international coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic, the track announced Thursday night. The policy will be in place for at least Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. The races, which include three stakes Saturday, will go on as scheduled.

Oaklawn joins a growing list of racetracks suspending ontrack spectators. Officials said in the press release they will be working closely with government officials to determine when the racing side of operations can be reopened to the public. Owners will be able to watch their horses from the track’s sportsbook, but not the grandstand
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Bet Twice on March 12, 2020, 08:13:03 PM
If big crowds are the criteria then other than the big days and boutique meets, they can keep running.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: Bet Twice on March 12, 2020, 08:19:30 PM
Your assuming things will be under control in the coming months.  Nothing I’ve seen supports that.  Even if we manage to contain it, we’re still going to want to avoid large gatherings or risk it flaring up again.  If the hope is that it dies down in the warmer months, that’s a possibility, but by no means guaranteed.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: statuette on March 12, 2020, 08:35:30 PM
They are testing vaccines “hopefully” it will be available in the near future ðŸ'
Title: Re: Coronavirus Vaccine Timeline
Post by: BitPlayer on March 12, 2020, 08:54:42 PM
What I\'m reading is that testing in humans may begin later this year, but that any vaccine will not be available until next year.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: TGJB on March 12, 2020, 09:24:38 PM
Best part of the Oaklawn plan is they’re still letting people into the casino.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: P-Dub on March 12, 2020, 10:53:22 PM
TGJB Wrote:
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> Best part of the Oaklawn plan is they’re still
> letting people into the casino.

I work for one. Its all about keeping the doors open, keeping that money dropping. Don\'t get me started.
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: johnnym on March 13, 2020, 04:18:40 AM
Mr.Bee
I get both sides.
Per W.H.O they are saying 80% of the people who contract this will have symptoms so minor they won’t even know they have it.
Approx 17% require hospitalization and will have a full recovery.
Remaining 3% not to good..

These #s are based before all the sanitizing went into effect.
I am willing to bet $$ cases are getting ready to sky rocket..

There is also a thing called herd immunity google it..

I am aware that we are in uncharted territory but to create this chaos (media)starting this stampede of non sense of buying toilet paper and water makes zero sense to me..  We need to focus on helping the elderly not panic buying.

Now we have a second virus the economy we shall see how this pans out..

To make light of what’s going on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mypHpsSoF8o

Good Luck
We can all us it..
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: trackjohn on March 13, 2020, 06:49:06 AM
Great points...
Title: Re: Are Racetracks Next??
Post by: P-Dub on March 13, 2020, 06:58:48 PM
P-Dub Wrote:
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> TGJB Wrote:
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> > Best part of the Oaklawn plan is they’re
> still
> > letting people into the casino.
>
> I work for one. Its all about keeping the doors
> open, keeping that money dropping. Don\'t get me
> started.

Both casinos in SJ have closed for a min 3 weeks. Gatherings of up to 100 only throughout Santa Clara County. Many businesses shut down.