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Title: Maximum Security
Post by: Silver Charm on February 28, 2020, 07:32:28 PM
If he wins this race tomorrow in Drug Free Saudi does it prove Servis is clean?

Does a Trainer who has his horses coming in off 1:11 6F works have an edge over one who has them going in 40 then 52 then 54. Thats not MPH that\'s in seconds.

Vegas has a Prop bet of -$1.20 to -$1.20 who finds more trouble or excuses McKinzie or Tacitus.

How long did Bafferts nose get when he actually said this race wasn\'t about the $20M but for bragging rights?

I think Maximum Security wins. This horse has made a believer out of me. Yes I know he was 6-5 in the Cigar Mile but it was EASY money that day. He not only is fast but he is tough to get by. If he does then just build the Statue on Union Avenue now.....
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: wrongly1 on February 29, 2020, 06:54:25 AM
Silver

Oh please!  Do you really think Servis is clean?  So sick of people now making claims that\'s he\'s \"Just different.\"  Spare me!  He\'s dirty! FYI, lost a ton of weight shipping.

Why people hate Navarro but stick up for Servis is beyond me.

GP Late Pk5 - 9/1,2,4,8,9/7,9,6,7/6
Race 13 watch out for #7 Admission Officer for Lynch, getting 6lbs, paired 3\'s and note back on lasix.  Expect the Spooky Channel jump!  Yup, hay and oats baby or maybe it\'s just the shoes.  T.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: Silver Charm on February 29, 2020, 07:12:59 AM
Just throwing it out there if he wins.

Speaking of the Hay and Oats and Salt Water air move up angle. How about the The Godzilla vs King Kong battle in the Forward Gal. We have one Filly who blazed a 2 at 2. And another who pulled a Verazzano and won off the screen by 12 in an early January 2. The filly Bayerness won both starts like she might nice. Rallied, had tactical speed. Given some time. Hard to fit her in here unless it\'s a collapse. Which isnt a crazy thought except The Mad Scientist and Dr Frankenstein.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: wrongly1 on February 29, 2020, 08:36:33 AM
I\'m going with the Tonalist horse, no idea what that Saffie is using but I see that one running big today vs. TP\'s who should regress.  Did anyone spot a White Mercedes with KY plates at GP today?
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: hellersorr on February 29, 2020, 09:55:14 AM
Well, that was a helluva of a performance.  Talk about the will to WIN.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: atakante on February 29, 2020, 09:56:51 AM
That\'s the dictionary definition of snatching victory from the jaw of defeat!!!
Right up there with Arrogate\'s Dubai race for me.  Love this horse!!!  Still hurts that he was taken down as the real KD winner.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: ajkreider on February 29, 2020, 10:01:04 AM
Thought Saez was late diving inside, but the horse tries every time.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: Silver Charm on February 29, 2020, 10:02:35 AM
This proves Servis is a Water and Carrots guy.

Interesting comment by Servis there about Irad considering Irad rides for him a LOT and at one point rode this horse. Kind of a Storybook finish for a Storybook horse. Hope they make it to all the races and places this year with this one. I think we have one that can pack the stands
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: ajkreider on February 29, 2020, 10:14:15 AM
TS looked so bad last out. She\'d have been dusted in the off the turf race earlier in the card. Obvious bounce and don\'t see this as enough time to circle back.  Will play against
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: Silver Charm on February 29, 2020, 10:28:43 AM
I agree. It took Chance It several months to circle back that July 2YO zero Saffie squeezed out of him. I agree. Pletcher could back up some and will take $$$$$$.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: bluechip21 on February 29, 2020, 06:41:06 PM
It is a shame they took him down in the derby. Outstanding horse.

Props to the TG staff for the race sheets. Excellent figures on that 1 horse. Mike Smith driving the rail ruined a healthy trifecta for me. But the only reason I was close was because of this handy product.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: T Severini on March 01, 2020, 05:05:03 AM
10 million winners share...not bad.
Saez gets a cool million.
Servis gets a cool million.
Coolmore gets a nice 4 million

I wanted that Derby to build on that Pat Day Mile. Don\'t care what they say, Maximum Security was the best horse going into the Derby and the best horse coming out of it. The plonker they grafted it to never ran again. I\'m saving those cyber tickets waiting for acknowledgement and justice. But then again, I believe Trump conspired with the Russians.  

Sensing Coolmore has other ideas about a campaign and guessing they purchased a controlling interest even if the reports are 50%
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: johnnym on March 01, 2020, 06:28:04 AM
My opinion MS is the best horse I’ve seen in a while maybe better than Justify or AP.
Ortiz did everything in his power not to let him by yesterday and MS kept coming for at least 4F.
Only negative may be his recovery time between races but he runs hard.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: Silver Charm on March 01, 2020, 07:21:49 AM
Raw #\'s would say others are better. But as we all know a rail 0 as controlling speed with tons of \"you\'re not getting by me heart\" can go a long long way in this competition.

I think the Rags to Riches angle with this one and throw in the Servis mystery training adds to the allure. As far as Servis goes how many other Blue Bloods have gone outside the box and taken on this challenge? He went to the other side of the World into a \"Drug Free Zone\" had his horse sharp off a 90 day layoff and 54 breeze. If he is doing it with nutrients and botanicals so be it. Right now he is proving he knows his horses better than you do yours. Get over it......
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: ajkreider on March 01, 2020, 07:28:31 AM
So did Navarro, FWIW
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: jma11473 on March 01, 2020, 12:10:12 PM
You can give Servis whatever praise you want for handling the horse because he deserves it, but plenty of \"suspicious\" trainers have gone to Dubai or Saudi Arabia and won \"drug free\". Proves nothing on that front.
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: johnnym on March 01, 2020, 12:27:22 PM
Plenty have come back never the same
Title: Re: Maximum Security
Post by: Silver Charm on March 01, 2020, 03:06:48 PM
Mike De Kock and Aiden O\'Brien have won over there so what does that mean....FWIW. When O\'Brien wheels horses back in a week what does that mean...FWIW. If Maximum Security goes on Coolmore and is a better Stallion than AP and Justify what does that mean? Slow works are better....FWIW

Yesterday proves Servis is a vegetable and peppermint Trainer