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Title: Ay Caramba
Post by: Upper Nile on August 27, 2004, 06:51:51 AM
JB, The race summary lines for this horses races in Brazil look suspect.  How could he have won 4 races in a row each winning by exactly the same 19 1/4 lengths. Then comes in 6th getting beat by 19 1/4 lengths?  Is it possible there\'s something funky with the data for this horses race running lines.
Title: Re: Ay Caramba
Post by: TGJB on August 27, 2004, 09:31:31 AM
The race summary lines for foreign horses aren\'t just suspect, they are wrong. We get the stuff from Equibase-- as time goes on they are getting better, and at some point should get everything ironed out.

Title: Re: Ay Caramba
Post by: Upper Nile on August 27, 2004, 11:20:07 AM
Any way you folks can filter out or delete innacurate info like this.  What about the accuracy of the sire data? If that data is correct Ay Caramba is by a sire who has produced 30 wins, in North America, out of 150 starts with 15 of the wins in stakes! Here in North America.  If this horse also won his last in Brazil-with 6 wins in a row he could be a serious race horse.  With horses like this The pick 4 is looking like a pass for me tomorrow.
Thanks, Phil
Title: Re: Ay Caramba
Post by: mandown on August 27, 2004, 05:28:58 PM
Data outside the US is very difficult for us to handle. As Jerry said, we can only take what Equibase send us and many countries either do not keep good records or else they have a format which is difficult for Equibase to use. We have various checks and balances in place but there is no perfect solution.

Sire stats are not affected as sire (and trainer) stats are based on North American (US and Canada) results only. It would be misleading to use worldwide races as we do not get the results for all races.