1.Game Winner
2.Tacitus
3.Country House
4.Maximum Security
Can MS backers please quit pretending they had the best horse and rightful winner of this race?
You had the absolute 100% perfect trip,............... until you didn\'t!!!!!!
Welcome to horse racing.
Will be interesting to see the figs for this race, won\'t be pretty either way. Did Maximum Security bounce? That\'s a tough sell. Did Game Winner run the same race as Arrogate did in Dubai? Also tough.
Edit: I have GW about 3 TG points faster going by the Trakus ground info (quick and hasty calculations so forgive me if wrong), so it won\'t be as bad I guess. If Maximum Security ran a 1, GW ran a neg 2. Plausible. Just a tad better than Justify. Still a tough sell for non-drinkers I guess.
Not to mention the comparisons to Justify\'s figs. Can see why a little taste of kool-aide is necessary for swallowing it all. I\'ll have mine in blue.
Counter point. He was the best horse. They gave him the lead and he won the race... until he didn’t. Alas. It is horse racing. Nothing ever surprises me in this sport.
Game Winner was 6 wide on the far. I repeat 6 wide. Tacitus was checked 6 times. May have gotten into a solid length stride for about half mile TOTAL. If he gets a Code of Honor trip he wins by 2-3 lengths. Please dont give me a figure that says he regressed....
If I can ever bring myself around to watching this race again, I might take that back.
Can\'t wait to see where the numbers come in on this race. After saving ground on 1st turn GW ends up in the parking lot making his rally. SA Derby 1st 3rd finishers laid eggs so not sure about current West Coast group having much of a say in the summer classic.
Outside perhaps Tacitus, I have a feeling the Travers winner may not have run yesterday.
He was certainly the best horse the last 2 furlongs.
I assume that everyone who had MS on top (and everyone should have had him on top on at least some tix), was that was fast enough to win AND he was likely to get a winning trip.
Game Winner will retire as a Trakus champion. If you weren\'t factoring 6W, that was a handicapping error.
This may be the first time in a while the the Derby winner does not get the best fig - and I think that may apply to the first three across the line.
Furious Pete Wrote:
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> Will be interesting to see the figs for this race,
> won\'t be pretty either way. Did Maximum Security
> bounce? That\'s a tough sell. Did Game Winner run
> the same race as Arrogate did in Dubai? Also
> tough.
>
> Edit: I have GW about 3 TG points faster going by
> the Trakus ground info (quick and hasty
> calculations so forgive me if wrong), so it won\'t
> be as bad I guess. If Maximum Security ran a 1, GW
> ran a neg 2. Plausible. Just a tad better than
> Justify. Still a tough sell for non-drinkers I
> guess.
I’m not sure Trakus has it right.
I have no idea what MS ran, and due to the conditions I don’t really care, but if you make it a 1, a quick look gives you
MS 1
CH 0
COH 2.25
Tac 0.5
Improb 2
GW 1 neg
bfick Wrote:
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> Can\'t wait to see where the numbers come in on
> this race. After saving ground on 1st turn GW
> ends up in the parking lot making his rally. SA
> Derby 1st 3rd finishers laid eggs so not sure
> about current West Coast group having much of a
> say in the summer classic.
>
> Outside perhaps Tacitus, I have a feeling the
> Travers winner may not have run yesterday.
Thats like saying Steph Curry sucks because he had a bad game.
I\'m not sure you can say a group of horses isn\'t very good, based on a performance run on that mess of a track jammed into a 20 horse starting gate.
Master Fencer almost made it to the board per Trakus...quite a feat flying all the way around the globe and jumping into the mud after a single gallop before race day. On the flip side, what does this say about this crop?
trackus doesn\'t pay out
philywheel
Not this time - but Trakus may pay out down the line...
I too believe the TG ground will be a bit \"kinder\" than the 103 feet in difference Trakus has it. About two points between them seems about right. GW ran a big race.
My point is unlike the past few years the West Coast horses leave me unimpressed coming out of the race. The 1st and 3rd betting choices now combined 0-6 this year. Your point is fair regarding the track and I\'ll reserve judgement on GW until I see the final numbers, but at the moment ex. Tacitus I think Omaha has this group over barrel and missing the TC may have been a blessing come summer time.