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Title: How did you do thread
Post by: T Severini on May 05, 2018, 04:02:38 PM
No cash for me.

Good Magic was second and I needed him to win.

Really felt like once Promises Fulfilled burned up the rail played very favorably to those that ran it. Will review later for the Preakness.

Congrats to Tavasco on the Super it appears. That fourth place horse was a good one to get in.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: Tavasco on May 05, 2018, 04:06:18 PM
No No - I was just shocked that he got into the super.

I got nada!
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: jerry on May 05, 2018, 04:24:07 PM
Nothing happening in Baltimore in two weeks. Not with this horse. The Preakness could be a walkover.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: P-Dub on May 05, 2018, 04:37:04 PM
Sizeable Win ticket Good Magic.

Hit exacta and trifecta, But those were basically consolation prizes.

If GM wins I hit the superfecta and a bigger trifecta. Deja vu all over again.

Keyed Good Magic over Justify, Audible, and Bolt. Hit the All for 4th. Hated Mendelssohn tossed him.

I get a call from a buddy who\'s in Tahoe, he cashed for 17k that race. Just the call I was hoping to get after that weekend of watching large fish fall off my line. I was happy for him tho, good guy.

Justify was fantastic, ridden by the great one. Congrats to all that cashed.

What time is the Preakness???
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: T Severini on May 05, 2018, 04:55:53 PM
very nice

I should know better than to play baffert to bounce. American Pharaoh killed me and I knew better, but had to try and buck him. Pletcher hitting third wasn\'t good for my exotics  either though. Maybe next time.

I know better than to discount sires, but it really was odd that so many Scat Daddies were in this race. Unreal.

Poor Mendy. Magnum Moon veered dead in on the break slammed into Instilled Regard who laid a lick on Mendy. Who though squeezed was urged to rush up and he looked cooked at the half, which was torrid. Finished last. That early lick did not help his cause, but these Euro horses cannot hot foot with American horses under their current training.

I knew I was tempting fate with Baffert, but I gotta tell you these European trainers that are trying to Dirt over here in this race following these continental plans ....how can I say this without offending?........They are very unlucky...lol  

crazy. That was a three million dollar horse just abused by his trainer.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: boardedup on May 05, 2018, 06:38:49 PM
I had the Tri, which wasn\'t much more than a \"saver\" bet. I was heavier to Audible on top. I could of used Justify to not run everybody else on the front end (other than GM) completely into the ground.  I was expecting more out of the pressing types with the weather and the track being what it was.

Justify was certainly impressive though, gotta give him his due. At the same time, I was surprised with how much work was left for Audible to do?  Way to much ground to make up for a horse that was still running at the end. Same thing as the \"crowd pleaser\" My Boy Jack?  The one\'s that took all the money run 1-2-3-5.  Super disheartening for any race but this year\'s KY Derby field?  You gotta be kidding me?

Assuming Mendelssohn wasn\'t beat before he entered the gate he certainly was the second he left it.  Bolt done turning for home was disappointing to. Did you guys see anything you liked from anyone outside of the top five?
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: billk5300s on May 05, 2018, 08:09:21 PM
I played GM w/p, completely tossed Justify.  Had big exacta with Audible and wheel all tri 6/5/6/5-ALL.  Got some crumbs for my place bet.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: johnnym on May 05, 2018, 08:25:01 PM
I must say I loved Justify and I keyed him to win with the majority of my tickets being superfecta’s.
Unfortunately I did not have the 4 th place horse.
Lesson here,two years in a row Hollendforfer brought in a horse with a pair up numbers.

Personally I could not of handicap a race any better only to cash a small savor tri

It was a bit disappointing, to say the least.
I also believe this horse is the goods.
Well only 364 days until Derby 145.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: big18741 on May 06, 2018, 05:38:20 AM
Saver tri to cut my losses.

Bulk of my play(tri\'s and Supers) had Justify on top with almost as much Hofburg underneath.If My Boy Jack wasn\'t so over bet and at proper odds he\'d have been more of an under use for me.Thought those two would benefit from a fast pace.

Neither ran bad,and both got stopped(Hofburg 2x) when they were starting to put their run in.

Hofburg would be my Belmont horse(this time on top)if they decide to run him back in five weeks.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: ajkreider on May 06, 2018, 06:28:49 AM
Like many on here, I had the tri a couple of times.  And also like many, Magic on top would have made things very different.  (Was nowhere close to the super, despite being \"live\" to a bunch).

But after all is said and done, and tallying all the tris and supers, the future win and exacta bets, the throwing a stupid amount of money on outlier possibilities with an hour to go (visions of a monster payday) - total profit on the Derby sums to  (Jerry Lewis drumroll) - one dollar and 40 cents.*  

Boom!


*So, a loss, including TG data investment.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: yesthatwouldbeme on May 06, 2018, 07:39:58 AM
I cashed an insignificant amount, ex/tri and like most didn\'t have IR on the bottom of my big super ticket. I scrambled to play a saver \"mudder\" EBX that was a complete waste of time/stress. Justify looks legit, looking fwd to the Belmont take down discussions next month. Enjoyed the dialogue here and thanks for the seminar insights JB.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: bluechip21 on May 06, 2018, 07:43:26 AM
like most, I hit the tri and exacta. Missed the $1 super by leaving Audible off a $21 dollar ticket... ugh. I had like Instilled Regard to get the bottom of the super quite a bit based on his pedigree and the fact that I considered the SA Derby to be a prep of sorts. I guess I was thinking some old school training methods at hand by Hollendofer. Turns out the SA Derby was the key prep.

Jerry\'s seminar was very helpful and led to a profitable weekend all around.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: atakante on May 06, 2018, 11:45:37 AM
Got the TRI but missed out on the big SUP as I had GM winning and Justify 2nd even though IR was on the ticket.  Oh well, there\'s always next year.  Weather Gods PLEASE give us a fast dry Derby...enough with this ugly mudfest stuff!!

Justify looking like a real Triple Crown threat to me.  Willing to give him a 51% chance now...
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: Gerard on May 07, 2018, 04:48:29 AM
Needed Bravazzo, FDB, or Instilled Regard to complete the triple. Felt it wasn\'t going to be my day when I actually saw two futures wager horses make the starting gate, both (Noble Indy and Instilled Regard) at longer prices than my futures wager. Didn\'t have much confidence the exacta price price would stay in that range, otherwise would have had a few savers there. Congrats to all who cashed and great calls on the seminar A horses.

Not conceding the Preakness to the winner at 1-9 just yet. Orb, Super Saver, and MTB are enough history off sloppy track wins to take some flyers for me. Since 2000, only Smarty moved forward in Baltimore off the slop, but that wasn\'t off a new top in the KD. Could see Bravazzo with a move forward, it\'s still early.

Six straight favorites, hopefully that changes next year, as well as the track conditions.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: Airnate012 on May 07, 2018, 08:02:20 AM
I hate redboarding but I posted my opinion before the race on another board. I had Justify on top in 4 supers with GM, Audible, and Bolt as my 3 keys, 1x3x10x16, 1x3x16x10, 1x10x3x16, and 1x10x16x3. I cashed 2 of my 4 super tickets, biggest score of my life. The seminar was very helpful in solidifying my opinion on GM as the most likely board hitter. Thanks again.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: Tavasco on May 07, 2018, 08:49:40 AM
WOWSER - Not just once but two times.

HOT DAMN SAM - WAY TO GO. That\'s c/b HOF stuff.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: joemama on May 07, 2018, 09:08:49 AM
Now this woman knows how to construct a ticket.  1.2 million for an $18 bet.

http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2018/05/07/womans-18-bet-on-kentucky-derby-day-wins-1-2-million.html
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: P-Dub on May 07, 2018, 09:54:49 AM
Airnate012 Wrote:
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> I hate redboarding but I posted my opinion before
> the race on another board. I had Justify on top in
> 4 supers with GM, Audible, and Bolt as my 3 keys,
> 1x3x10x16, 1x3x16x10, 1x10x3x16, and 1x10x16x3. I
> cashed 2 of my 4 super tickets, biggest score of
> my life. The seminar was very helpful in
> solidifying my opinion on GM as the most likely
> board hitter. Thanks again.


Were your 3 keys included in the 10, but not the 16??

$411 per ticket??
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: Airnate012 on May 07, 2018, 09:55:27 AM
This is a \"how did you do thread\" and I simply explained my wager and gave thanks to the seminar. Not asking for a pat on the back.
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: Airnate012 on May 07, 2018, 09:58:33 AM
My 3 keys were included in all 3 legs under Justify. $378 per ticket.

7/5,6,11/5,6,8,9,10,11,14,16,18,19/2,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,14,15,16,17,18,19,20
and
7/5,6,8,9,10,11,14,16,18,19/5,6,11/2,4,5,6,8,9,10,11,12,14,15,16,17,18,19,20
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: P-Dub on May 07, 2018, 10:00:43 AM
Got it, thanks
Title: Re: How did you do thread
Post by: TempletonPeck on May 07, 2018, 03:03:08 PM
I cooked 15 pounds of prime steak for 20 of my closest friends, and we went through a case of 2005 California Cabs, including multiple cult super 100 pointers that you are expected to be supremely jealous of. I won $500 on the turf race that finished 6 - 9 - 3, and then lost it all on the Derby. We smoked cigars once the sun went down, and when we woke up Sunday we were all still friends.

Huge win.
Title: Thank goodness and a KY Derby bias
Post by: skitimber on May 07, 2018, 03:43:37 PM
Cashed a couple of tickets but was losing until (yes, I posted just how large this exacta seemed to be) hit the Justify over Good Magic exacta from the 3rd pool for $245.80 5 times.  Had a few tris and exactas just in case (so hit nothing else) and as I had a $100 bet on GM to win and with him on top would have paid $345, was screaming at my television for the first time in a number of years for GM to run down what appears to be the first great 3YO I\'ve seen in a long time.  American Pharaoh just not on par with Affirmed and Seattle Slew and for my money not even Sunday Silence or Easy Goer.

Down the road, we may find out that the bias was with those two as opposed to against them, but my guess is time will show they both are star quality and that Chad Brown, in just about any other year, would have won his first Derby with GM and the way he trained up to that race.

Only sad to think that I didn\'t need to spend any time or money on sheets/seminar when I could have turned the TV on for race 12 (is NBC even worth watching except for Eddie Olczyk (gets worse every year!) and been overjoyed at a great race and a winning result with a bet from 2 months earlier.  Sometimes better to be lucky than good.

Wake me for the Belmont!
Title: Re: Thank goodness and a KY Derby bias
Post by: TreadHead on May 07, 2018, 04:23:22 PM
More bias talk, LOOOOOOOL.  

Race 10 super:

Funny duck 12th at the quarter, 8th at the half
NY Central 6th and 4th
Givemeaminit 9th and 9th
Sporting Chance 8th and 11th

Derby:
8 of the 10 horses in the top 10 at the 1/2 and 3/4 did not finish in the top 10

Race 13 super:
King Zachary 6th at the quarter, 5th at the half
Determinant 9th (last) and 9th
Giant Honor 2nd and 2nd
Last Bad Habit 7th and 7th

It\'s been an interesting phenomenon really, watching all of the Audible backers try to invent a speed bias in order to disparage the top 2 so that they can feel better about the wrong opinion they had that Audible was a better horse.

Horse players are wrong all the time.  You can either learn from it based on facts, like from the charts above, or you can make things up out of complete air that are in direct conflict with the facts to try to convince yourself that you really were right in the first place with your opinion, which in reality was wrong.

For those of you who are doing the latter, \"welcome to the pools\"