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Title: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: Boscar Obarra on February 22, 2018, 05:45:45 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5414601/Horse-racing-doping-scandal-trainers-charged.html

Doubt they call them \'top ups\' here.  What\'s the NA version?
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: FrankD. on February 23, 2018, 04:12:17 AM
The MILKSHAKE Aussies can take credit for inventing it in the 60’s. I believe it was first used in harness horses.

http://equimed.com/drugs-and-medications/reference/sodium-bicarbonate
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: FrankD. on February 23, 2018, 04:12:58 AM
The MILKSHAKE Aussies can take credit for inventing it in the 60’s. I believe it was first used in harness horses
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: Boscar Obarra on February 23, 2018, 09:40:07 AM
I thought that was old hat by now and  was tested for widely. Guess not.
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: TempletonPeck on February 23, 2018, 10:09:15 AM
Appeared to me from the text messages in the article they may have noticed a pattern in the testing - if you hadn\'t been tested by 40 MTP, you weren\'t going to be tested. OTOH, maybe they just wanted it close-ish to race time for maximum effect, I\'m just guessing.
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: belmont3 on February 23, 2018, 07:20:42 PM
Frank,

An old harness driver at Pocono Downs used to laugh when the thoroughbred gang were finally getting around to banning \'milkshakes\'.

Told me he used them back in his 1960\'s-1970\'s heyday.

Of course, the feature race had a purse of $500 in those days.

Whole lot of wheelin and dealin.

Like the The Night they Burned old Pocono Down (with apologies to The Band.)

From the archives:


https://www.nytimes.com/1971/07/09/archives/bettors-at-pocono-downs-riot-over-skimpy-exacta-pocono-bettors-riot.html

Read while listening to this rendition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jREUrbGGrgM

Bob
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: billk5300s on February 24, 2018, 07:07:59 AM
Hey Frank D,  wish I knew about that when I was trying to get Why Bill past Rambling Willie on a typical summer Saturday night a Sportsmans Park in the 70\'s!!!  But the bull ring spring meet was the best!!!
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: FrankD. on February 24, 2018, 07:52:16 AM
Look what I found.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uYZS9cioZUg
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: Dick Powell on February 24, 2018, 02:08:06 PM
As far as I know, they do not conduct blood gas testing at the races in Australia. They do have severe penalties if you are caught doing it or with the equipment but they do not have a black box.
Dick
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: Dick Powell on February 24, 2018, 02:15:03 PM
They were rocked by the cobalt scandal and now this. They do an awesome job keeping bettors informed but like most blowhard countries that criticize our racing, they are no cleaner than anyone else. For example, the Brits don\'t even drug test every race.
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: joemama on February 25, 2018, 07:36:15 AM
Here\'s a couple of others where fans took to the track to express their anger.
First one at Roosevelt Park. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUqHVP02yM0

This one is from Yonker.  Must be a New York thing.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9WWjtIEyNo
Title: Re: Dirty Dealings Down Under
Post by: billk5300s on March 03, 2018, 05:39:45 AM
Thanks for sharing Frank D!!!  Don\'t you love the \"2 hole trip\"???  Those were some fun times though!!!
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