Anyone know if he\'s having any particular issues? I remember years ago he had problems with being too thin. His rides as of late seem really poor, many on favorites. Would be something to note for Del Mar. I don\'t wish him anything bad, but what I\'ve seen lately is brutal, even worse than the normal bad southern California rides we see ten times a day. There\'s like 3 real jockeys out there as compared with NYRA where the talent runs very deep. Never understood why this is so.
Thanks for sharing the observation. Any related statistics available? I am always particularly interested in how a jockey does in photo finishes, and also how a jock does riding a mount for the first time.
\"Like 3 real jockeys out there\"? Ok, Bejarano, Smith, Stevens. That leaves leading rider Flavien Prat, the outstanding apprentice Eavin Roman, Joe Talamo, Kent Desormeaux, Corey Nakatani and others who I do not have to name because I think I have established to my own satisfaction that there are more than 3 \"real jockeys\" on the West Coast.
Post responsibly.
I exaggerate a little.
Definitely not Bejarano though. Good lord he grabs everything and goes 5 wide whenever possible. He wins often because he\'s on the best horse many, many times. He\'s awful.
I would say:
Smith (obviously great)
Prat (very solid)
Roman (making a name now)
Kent D (still great)
Stevens (still great)
Talamo (very solid)
The rest you can have.
Seriously though, compare SO Cal with NYRA. It\'s a joke.
Evin A. Roman 194 41 28 19 $1,321,205
Flavien Prat 177 41 25 28 $2,091,893
Joseph Talamo 215 37 38 22 $1,808,078
Rafael Bejarano 153 33 23 25 $1,957,616
Tyler Baze 193 24 33 40 $1,315,108
Tiago Josue Pereira 170 19 27 23 $843,375
Gary L. Stevens 82 17 11 11 $985,381
Edwin A. Maldonado 110 16 18 18 $729,092
Kent J. Desormeaux 67 14 12 8 $879,767
Kyle Frey 95 14 9 16 $362,519
Santiago Gonzalez 141 12 15 24 $639,406
Norberto Arroyo, Jr. 87 12 13 15 $789,789
Martin A. Pedroza 133 12 11 26 $508,512
Jamie Theriot 84 11 6 9 $435,875
Mike E. Smith 36 11 5 6 $1,090,860
Israel Ocampo 96 10 17 7 $330,332
Mario Gutierrez 70 10 14 5 $556,110
Corey S. Nakatani 73 9 13 9 $626,480
Martin Garcia 67 9 8 12 $645,825
Stewart Elliott 128 8 17 17 $480,677
Jose L. Ortiz 303 59 59 48 $6,247,044
Irad Ortiz, Jr. 318 58 57 42 $4,330,217
Manuel Franco 279 44 29 40 $2,604,912
Luis Saez 209 36 30 29 $2,411,328
Joel Rosario 206 35 43 31 $3,389,139
Javier Castellano 206 33 36 28 $4,274,917
John R. Velazquez 199 33 32 36 $3,180,063
Angel S. Arroyo 190 23 16 25 $1,405,526
Kendrick Carmouche 136 18 9 15 $993,679
Dylan Davis 159 16 20 21 $1,063,798
Rajiv Maragh 175 14 22 20 $1,484,260
Jose Lezcano 129 14 14 17 $1,221,595
Eric Cancel 126 13 18 10 $772,332
Cornelio H. Velasquez 88 12 10 11 $598,862
Paco Lopez 60 7 8 12 $979,695
Ricardo Santana, Jr. 83 6 7 12 $484,943
Rosario Montanez 56 6 6 2 $284,620
Hector Rafael Diaz, Jr. 108 5 13 12 $423,237
Luis R. Reyes 104 5 5 10 $247,807
Mike E. Smith 16 5 1 1 $2,060,025
Dana: Thanks for the statistics. We all exaggerate.
One thing that should come clear from the stats is that the shorter fields (and shortened racing weeks due to lack of entries)add a competitive element to West Coast racing not seen on the East Coast.
Your top six at NYRA would be the Ortiz Bros, John Velazquez and Javier Castellano (both of whom make their living riding short priced TAPs and Chads), Joel Rosario (who, like Mrs. Gump says, is like a box of chocolates) and then (choose one) Luis Saez or Jose Lezcano.
So looking at the top guns on the West Coast, I might say \"advantage NYRA\" based on the \"relative\" youth of the NYRA room.
If you brought some of the second tier Cal riders (S. Gonzalez, E. Maldonado, T. Baze, J. Talamo, etc) to NYRA, they would be every bit as successful as Cancel, Franco, Carmouche, etc. Just my opinion.
Those jockey stats don’t look right. Was there a filter? Here are the latest Equibase jockey numbers as of today. http://www.equibase.com/stats/View.cfm?tf=year&tb=horse#sthash.DSLPfMRR.dpbs
Click Jockeys on the link site. Didn’t come through in original post.
Is Jose Ortiz now the best jockey in the land? Given his age, he might rewrite the record books by the time he hangs it up.
Hey N Arroyo used to ride at NYRA all the time ,I saw he went out to Cal. and did really well, at NYRA average at best
Philywheel
and the Ortiz Bros, watching them every day they are just off the charts, even on their days off the go to parx
everyone looks at stats, just bet the Ortiz Bros and you will do fine , no need for the racing form
Stevens is WILDLY inconsistent. . . well-beyond expected standard deviation.
I\'ll leave it at that.
last 6 months Ortiz brothers 24% win .74 roi
But if your a Horizontal player like me, 24% is a valuable tool
philywheel
Maybe I\'m missing something but how does a negative expectation turn into a positive one just because you\'re playing horizontals.... That ROI last 6 months is brutal.
If you go by this logic, wouldn\'t it be a good idea to blindly include all favorites when playing horizontals... Your hit rate would exceed 24% and your ROI would be slightly healthier.
I think your missing the correct info, this is for the last 90 day
Irad:Last 90 days 383 20.1% $1.45
77 - 71 - 52
Jose:385 17.7% $1.74
68 - 70 - 65
Including theses guys in PIK 3.4 and 5
is a must , discount them and you are probally ripping up those tickets
( I learned the had way)
Philywheel
The info is correct for 6 months, .74 roi, to a dollar, yours is to 2 dollars
As for the favorites in the last 6 months, 19,253 races 33% .80 roi
Hey Rich , The public makes the Fav , not me. I know what I have in the Ortiz bros
Philywheel