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lol :)
Extremely impressive, again. But I guess the post time fav wins the derby every year now???
Maybe the 2017 Seminar was meant to be played backwards like the Beatles White Album? Ouch. After 10 years of being completely fooled by Pletchers phony Florida numbers--this!?!?! Ouch again.
hey Pete, I assume you didn\'t get talked off him in the end.
Skoll!
Congrats to all.
If this makes sense the horse did not beat me Pletcher did.
Congrats on sticking with your guns. I\'m just a lurker here with an occasional comment on what I think is relevant but really enjoy all the comments and banter. Track certainly helped Always Dreaming and they\'ll surely line up to bet against him in Pimlico, but AD backers got the cash today.
fwiw, the ride Rosario gave Practical Joke was as good as any you\'ll see in a big race, from the 19 hole to the rail by the 1st turn. Unreal.
Makes sense, it was the price that beat me. I did play him on top of a few (loser) exotics bets, but there appeared to me anyway to be way to much value else where as far as win bets were concerned.
that $75K dollar super w/ the Fav and the ml fav hitting the board is about as good as gets, congrats to all those that hit
Impressive indeed.
Lanerie was Borel-like. I don\'t think he left the rail until he moved into second.
boardedup Wrote:
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> Makes sense, it was the price that beat me. I did
> play him on top of a few (loser) exotics bets, but
> there appeared to me anyway to be way to much
> value else where as far as win bets were
> concerned.
>
> that $75K dollar super w/ the Fav and the ml fav
> hitting the board is about as good as gets,
> congrats to all those that hit
Agreed. He was one of the most likely winners, but the price made it very difficult to attack unless you loved the Place and Show horses (I didn\'t).
Didn\'t stick to my guns strong enough. If he were like 10-1 or so I would have shipped it on him, but 9/2 made it tough to play him. Price dictated my play and I put most of my eggs into the value basket with Practical Joke. Tough game.
Rajiv did well to get his position, albeit at others expense.
I\'m not sure how he was a likely winner. 9 point top in Florida after years of Pletcher Florida horses throwing Xs off tops. I had him 80% to run off or bounce. Thought fair odds on him were 12/15-1.
MonmouthGuy Wrote:
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> I\'m not sure how he was a likely winner. 9 point
> top in Florida after years of Pletcher Florida
> horses throwing Xs off tops. I had him 80% to run
> off or bounce. Thought fair odds on him were
> 12/15-1.
We all have different opinions. I\'ve already shared my thoughts on this horse this week. Those 9s were not Xs on my sheet.
Yeah, looking back not upgrading the 1 knowing he\'d get a rail tip was a catastrophic mistake by me. I didn\'t use him at all.
I used the ones that finished 4,5,6,pretty heavy. CE & Tapwrit got blown up at the start and pretty much lost all chance (at least CE) and PJ had no answer in the stretch.
All I can say is thorograph is the best tool in the game but there is also the eye test. His Florida derby win was visually impressive and to me the only derby winning move I saw in all preps. Unfortunately I had a small old derby double and woodford derby double but 9-2 was just not enough value. I suck
Not an inexpensive ticket at that. The 1 was pickable but Battle of Midway? That\'s the ALL button and that begins to add up.
PJ might be just a miler and a hanger as well.
The 9s in this case weren\'t reliable. He\'d never beeen tested until the Florida Derby. That was a number indicative of his true ability.
I agree. (not on the suck part, on the TG and eye test part).
I\'m not really surprised by the order of finish. Of course I used another group of horses.
1. Most had to consider the winner c/b a beast. Even if they thought it more likely he would go back.
2. Lookin At Lee\'s race @ OP was there for everyone to see. Post Position #1 scares many away. He had the right style for that starting position and didn\'t get stopped which is some good fortune.
3. The notion that all the West Coast colts were slow was imaginative, say slow developing
4. Much ado about Pletcher\'s Derby record, nary a mention that he kept getting beat by Baffert & O\'neil. Gee no Baffert, O\'Neil was ??
5. The Wood\'s continual flop\'s might be more than just bad luck.
6. State Of Honor did his part and then dropped from 1st to 14th in 1/4 of a mile beating only the bucking bronco. I hope he is alright.
My love affair with Hence is Kaput he ran around trailing the field and then got stuck behind fast & accurate once he decided to run. I was so wrong about his tactical speed.
I played tri\'s didn\'t really expect to win, no Johnnie & Tara, overall I enjoyed the show.
That was savage mode Sek. Thx for all ur strong analysis past few weeks. Helped me get a piece. Not a lot but a piece. Now everyone will try & beat this horse at Pimlico & Elmont. Not me.