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Title: Belmont Bet
Post by: pgsheets on June 04, 2004, 01:39:56 PM
Seems to me the best bet in the Belmont would be exacta and tri\'s with Purge, Eddington and Rock.

Exactas figure to be 70$ - $150 and tri\'s would be big if SJ comes up as empty as logic and long term strategies would suggest.

Title: Re: Belmont Bet
Post by: TGAB on June 04, 2004, 04:36:04 PM
If SJ comes up empty seems to me show might be the way to go. SJ is 2-5 to win, but has to be much, much shorter in the show pool.

Title: Re: Belmont Bet
Post by: on June 04, 2004, 06:26:49 PM
>If SJ comes up empty seems to me show might be the way to go. SJ is 2-5 to win, but has to be much, much shorter in the show pool.M

I think RHT is the show bet.

Even if you think Purge is more likely to win because he\'s faster than RHT, he is absolutely more suspect at 12 furlongs and as a result more likely to be off the board.

I really can\'t see RHT finishing off the board here. He can get beat, but I just can\'t imagine him not firing or not liking 12 furlongs.
Title: Re: Belmont Bet
Post by: jimbo66 on June 04, 2004, 07:42:29 PM
Sorry, but RHT to show might be about the worst idea I have seen on this forum.  RHT is likely to be 2.10 to show, as I would guess  we see some bridgejumpers on SMarty tomorrow.

If you really believe Smarty won\'t finish in the top 3, you can bet them all to show and get major payoffs if he does run out.,

I for one, am having a tough time gathering the courage to bet against Smarty to win, let alone bet him not finishing in the top 3.
Title: Re: Belmont Bet
Post by: on June 05, 2004, 06:49:02 AM
Obviously, everyone will be 2.10 to show if Smarty is in the money. Implicit in any show bet strategy is the possibility that Smarty will either dislike 12 furlongs or finally fall apart after all these fast races. IMO, these 2 probabilities are higher today than is typically the case.  

Personally, I would not bet everyone to show because it would ensure that I\'m going lose of lot of money every time Smarty finishes in the money (which is probably well north of 75%).

I\'m also going to throw out a bunch of tickets and dilute my odds when I do win by including horses I don\'t really think are going to hit the board anyway.

IMO, RHT is the most likely to hit the board after Smarty Jones. There are a few others in there that are highly suspect.

The key is what percentage of the time would RHT hit the board even if Smarty is in (I get 2.10) and what percentage will he hit when Smarty is out (at what payoff).

If the net is profiable it\'s a good bet.  

I see no advantage to putting myself into a situation where I would lose a lot of money the vast majority of the time just so I can ensure I will make some money when Smarty is out.

I\'d rather collect 2.1 half the time (or so), occasionally have a loser, and occasionally have a windfall on the horse that represent the best value in the pool.

My guess is that that\'s going to be RHT, but I haven\'t seen the odds yet. The point is moot thought, I suspect not many of us are going to be on the \"show\" line for the race. :-)