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Title: McCracken
Post by: Silver Charm on February 07, 2017, 06:51:36 PM
Getting high props from his Conditioner. Considering f the guy has had 2 Derby Winners. Much higher than one could possibly imagine!! Time will tell.
Title: Re: McCracken
Post by: phil23 on February 08, 2017, 01:40:41 PM
Can\'t wait to bet against him this weekend - given his reputation, he is slow. From that post at that weight at that price, this looks like a great spot to beat him.
Title: Re: McCracken
Post by: Silver Charm on February 11, 2017, 06:48:05 AM
You may very well may be right. Pletcher is always tough at Tampa. Has won the Derby or Sam F or both for like the last 4 years running.

But 2nd guessing a low key under the radar trainer who unleashed two 24-1 runnerup bombs last week on Holy Bull Day could be big mistake. Loaded barn will be progressively making a Spring impact. No doubt they are looking down the road at bigger and better things....
Title: Re: McCracken
Post by: ajkreider on February 11, 2017, 07:35:30 AM
His pattern suggests a move forward here, but I confess I was surprised to see how he stacks up against the rest of the field.  A must bet against at 2-1, especially given the running style.
Title: Free Money
Post by: Silver Charm on February 11, 2017, 02:20:47 PM
Was 80% today. When a low-key guy says it might be the best horse he has ever laid his hands. You divide by 2 for hope and multiply by 4 since he has NO concept of hype....
Title: Re: Free Money
Post by: Wrongly on February 11, 2017, 02:27:51 PM
Hoping that was a 1 to 2 and not a zero!
Title: Re: Free Money
Post by: ajkreider on February 11, 2017, 03:01:56 PM
Was wondering about the fig myself.  Track record time, the high-weight, and 4w on the turn.  Looks to stack up pretty well against the filly race.  4 horses within 3 1/2 lengths doesn\'t scream track record though.
Title: Re: Free Money
Post by: mjellish on February 11, 2017, 03:59:58 PM
7 horse ran a nice race too, which was where my money was.
Title: Re: Sam Davis Ground Loss
Post by: BitPlayer on February 11, 2017, 04:29:58 PM
McCraken didn\'t really lose much ground.  He was inside through the first turn and only tipped out late in the second turn.  Trakus only has him travelling 9 feet farther than State of Honor.

Wild Shot was the wide-trip horse in the race, but I often wonder whether ground-loaded figs from Tampa are a little more suspect than those from elsewhere.

I liked No Dozing.  Hard to find an excuse.  I wonder whether Union Rags is going to get precocious 2yos.
Title: Re: Free Money
Post by: Topcat on February 11, 2017, 09:58:47 PM
mjellish Wrote:
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> 7 horse ran a nice race too, which was where my
> money was.


Join the club.   An American Tragedy, on multiple levels . . . despite the all-out \"I WILL save ground on the final turn, by God!\" ride.
Title: Re: Free Money
Post by: jbelfior on February 12, 2017, 04:52:06 AM
A rare poor decision by Ortiz. But that was a sweet exacta price.

Tapwrit may be a serious horse going forward. Then again it\'s Pletcher in Tampa in February.

Good Luck,
Joe B