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Title: Pegasus World Cup Pricing
Post by: alydar61 on November 26, 2016, 04:25:12 AM
I didn\'t see a thread here about this, and this isn\'t about handicapping so please excuse me if I\'m out of bounds. But Holy $h**!

Grandstand seats  $180-$225  SOLD OUT

General Admission  $100

Ten Palms  $550 for a bar seat  
           $615 for upper level table seat
           $765 for out side table seat
           Must reserve entire table.

Fountain Club  $750 per person Must reserve either 2 of 6 person table.

Christine Lee\'s  Bar $200 per person  SOLD OUT
                 Table $500 per seat  4 seat min.

Silks Simulcast  $150-$215 per seat

Tiki Bar    $100 per seat at a picnic table
            $175 per seat at a regular table

Breezeway Bar  $175 per seat

Sport Of Kings Theater  $300 per seat  Includes Buffet.

Poker Room  $300 per person  Includes buffet.

Walking Ring  $130 per seat

Franky\'s Sports Bar  $500 per person Includes buffet and limited open bar
                 Plus $75 if you want the buffet after party

Corona Beach House   $200 per seat

Pegasus Park  $150 per person  Live DJ!

Limited Parking available only to those who buy a parking pass. Not sure how much those are.

Looks like I\'ll be heading to Hialeah to their Champions Room, which is actually quite nice.
Title: Re: Pegasus World Cup Pricing
Post by: johnnym on November 26, 2016, 05:38:02 AM
I agree friggen ridiculous especially for a race that may not have enough quality horses to fill.
Sometimes this sport is as bad as the NFL
Title: Re: Pegasus World Cup Pricing
Post by: wipitoga on November 29, 2016, 01:48:50 PM
Agree that prices are absurd, Good Luck to GP roping off every area.

Just watch and bet from the comfort of home, online account and TVG.
Can see live racing at GP from the Ten Palms bar on Friday and Sunday if need be,
and the cost is zero
Title: Re: Changing Racetrack Economics?
Post by: BitPlayer on November 30, 2016, 07:43:25 AM
I wonder if the Pegasus pricing reflects a trend.  I have read a couple of posts on the Pull the Pocket blog discussing the efforts of California racetracks to get the CHRB to require ADW's to use geolocation to identify bets made through the ADW by people at California tracks.  The ultimate objective is to get the ADW's to pay a higher signal fee for such bets.  Those posts raised two questions in my mind.

The first question: why would a racetrack patron with an ADW as an option choose instead to bet through the windows/machines at the track?  With an ADW, there is no waiting in line (and risk of getting shut out), and there are no vouchers and tickets to lose.  And the second question, why should the track be entitled to a higher signal fee for ADW bets made by its patrons?  The track is not doing anything more for that customer than it is for an offtrack customer, and the ADW is not doing anything less.  In fact, the presence of the ADW option probably makes the track's customer service task easier, because there are less people in lines and fewer tickets to get jammed in machines.

All of which leads me to the topic of this post:  is there a trend towards racetracks looking at attendance, not as a means of increasing handle (which they could view as largely independent of attendance), but as a separate source of profit to be maximized? With that viewpoint, it may be best, particularly in trying to create big days, to sell a limited number tickets to wealthy patrons, rather than to allow the grounds to be overrun with lower-paying customers who bring with them customer service difficulties and expense.  That could explain the Pegasus pricing.  It is also consistent with the way Churchill Downs is running its racetrack business (increasing Derby and Oaks day admission prices and building new luxury seating) and with NYRA's introduction of big-day attendance caps and Saratoga picnic table sales.