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Title: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: TGAB on November 10, 2016, 11:59:11 AM
The Thoro-Graph figures for all races on both days of the 2016 Breeders\' Cup are now available on the ROTW page.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: johnnym on November 10, 2016, 12:47:41 PM
Good stuff thanks fellas.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: phil23 on November 10, 2016, 02:20:28 PM
Echoing Johnny\'s remark, thanks for sure.

Lots to go over but...wow...Where on Earth did Kiaran conjure up that Tamarkuz figure from? My goodness.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: arosenzweig on November 11, 2016, 04:58:56 AM
You have to love Not This Time\'s pattern going forward to his three year old year especially looking at his siblings all who were very fast.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: FrankD. on November 11, 2016, 05:27:14 AM
Always careful not to hype 2 yr olds too much! This one does have the potential to be scary good. He has had issues or hiccups at the start in 3 of 4 career starts.
The one time he got away clean he showed some of the dams speed.

Hopefully he stays sound and Romans is patient with him. Then again Baffert will probably just show up with another monster we haven\'t seen yet?

Good luck,

Frank D.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: mjellish on November 11, 2016, 05:59:45 AM
Just curious as to how you arrive at 3W second turn for Arrogate.  He went into the turn 3W, but dropped down to the inside very early, and then was allowed to drift out to the 3 path coming out of the turn.  He certainly was inside of Chrome for half of more of the turn.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: jerry on November 11, 2016, 06:18:39 AM
Is it typical of BC cards that there are so many bounces or was this year different? My cursory read is several of the fastest going in just didn\'t fire.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: TGJB on November 11, 2016, 08:43:43 AM
What shows up on the sheet is rounded off. We had him 3-2-3.
Title: Re: 2016 TG Breeders' Cup Days Figures
Post by: belmont3 on November 11, 2016, 09:09:10 PM
Fastest 2 yo # since Street Sense ran neg  or so.

Pretty impressive.
For comparison:

Nyquist ran a 2 3/4.

Songbird a 3 3/4
Beholder a 4
Union Rags a 2 in a runner up effort