Ask the Experts

General Category => Ask the Experts => Topic started by: sekrah on August 06, 2016, 02:20:23 PM

Title: West Virginia Derby
Post by: sekrah on August 06, 2016, 02:20:23 PM
6 looks ready to spike a new top at a big price.  May or not be enough but a lot of these don\'t impress. Cupid should bounce off the last.
Title: Re: West Virginia Derby
Post by: Tavasco on August 06, 2016, 02:39:50 PM
Cupid next out s/b on a straight away no more turns for a while.
Title: Re: West Virginia Derby
Post by: bellsbendboy on August 06, 2016, 03:28:51 PM
Why should have Cupid bounced?  bbb
Title: Re: West Virginia Derby
Post by: Silver Charm on August 06, 2016, 08:02:21 PM
Go into the Introduction section of the website and they define what a \"bounce\" means. That will help you a lot. They also go on to say the following.


Of course there are infinite variations in how horses run and no two are alike. There are no hard and fast rules on how to interpret patterns and form cycles. Every handicapper will come up with his or her patterns they like or dislike.


Alan the 50-1 you gave out in the Analysis didn\'t run to bad. He was 4th. Beat Suddenbreakingnews and Adventist who placed in major Derby Preps. Solid pattern read that didn\'t quite work out.
Title: Re: West Virginia Derby
Post by: bellsbendboy on August 07, 2016, 01:38:36 PM
Apologize in that I did not know this was the ROTW, though maybe should have given the OP\'s penchant for regurgitation.

In general, a solid write up by the analyst, using basic TG tenets and pointing out the throat surgery.  Certainly a five integer jump could be grounds for concern, and as noted the rail, this oval often no bargain.

Yet as far as CUPID, aside from the breathing problem stop in Hot Springs, he has been untested going two turns and a pair up would seem more likely, if even in hindsight.   bbb
Title: Re: West Virginia Derby
Post by: Silver Charm on August 07, 2016, 02:22:42 PM
I agree with some of that except the analyst and any handicapper wanting to take a stand against a horse off a 5pt top and at short odds who could blame them. There were people who bet against Frosted yesterday off a 6 pt top.

For the record I didn\'t bet the race. One thing I did consider when I heard the horse was running as that after Indiana Derby Baffert had said he was going to give him a break. The fact he showed in this spot I thought it meant he was doing g good. But the added distance, extra ship, quirky track had me taking a pass. And yet the field was horrible. Bombs filled the ticket and Super paid over $19K with a 3-2 on top.