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Title: Any thoughts on the smarty-cliff's edge exacta payout?
Post by: gambino on May 24, 2004, 08:56:25 PM
Thinking maybe $12 for a 1000 times. ;)
Title: Re: Any thoughts on the smarty-cliff's edge exacta payout?
Post by: gambino on May 24, 2004, 08:57:43 PM
Just love the cliff\'s edge\'s closing,winning, 111 beyers the race before last,think that improves but smarty stays in the high teens.
Title: Re: Any thoughts on the smarty-cliff's edge exacta payout?
Post by: pgsheets on May 25, 2004, 11:35:31 AM
I suppose Cliff could be bet off an 0-x-2 line.  The Bluegrass explosion was out of line and he certainly X\'ed off it - shoes or no shoes.
I\'m more than a bit concerned about his loss of training and the video I saw of him 2 days before the Preakness in which he couldn\'t put his foot down on the ground remains fresh in my mind.

Gulch at a mile and a half with the chance he\'s less than 100% ?

I see a premature move into the 3/8\'s pole and then then staggerring will begin.

No thanks.

Good Luck.

Title: Re: Any thoughts on the smarty-cliff's edge exacta payout?
Post by: pgsheets on May 25, 2004, 11:39:57 AM
And yes, I am aware that Point Given\'s sire was Thunder Gulch by Gulch.

Same opinion.

Title: Re: Any thoughts on the smarty-cliff's edge exacta payout?
Post by: Chuckles_the_Clown2 on May 25, 2004, 12:08:00 PM
What we do know is that the Bluegrass was Legit on T-Figs. So both Lion and TCE ran nice races. Limehouse didn\'t run bad either. The keys to me are that TCE really looked to be all out at the Wire and my view seemed to indicate Lion Heart fought back, so I make them relatively equal horses. TCE will benefit from a larger track and less traffic. But its a question of breeding is my guess. I don\'t like the Gulch and Danzig combination. Fupig was close...Prospector/Danzig. I hated his breeding, but he was conformed like the best kind. He did skip the Belmont. I don\'t think TCE is gonna relish 12 marks. I can see A.P. Valentine and Monarchos all over again, which means he may get second. Eddingtion and Rock Hard would appear to have chances as well. I still think Purge has an edge on all of them except Smarty.